Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjEl1-0005EN-HE; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:38:46 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf2642538gxk.16 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:38:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=F81wMFeR7UUMSizPbbO0MTHkql6DWXlI2QeAgGiC+jc=; b=C7KiBmv4eu7SFMQQwdGcGSNn8nOhp8rnO207q2vpYsCSNZUFGTkbiACIsUbsUyqB8v G4eza3JrzbJOg2BhWiAjAU8mdl9loVUZIjOR/6NKSZTXaCxj5332K7WgRsyonDNIvyqt EHNHqruKI6Ve8vqqP5w+pki8CA1vusUQkMqEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Mw+Ga6v3oGikcrYuEKXhvh6VOJJI+HiuBBKQKtI4rldNdX8aPhKicFkJN1+ITeh4zD rVgKhRQ4veaNCgAtc0F02erf10BDEtycuGcCwTDTOEr21JZNPbSn2i5w/RFXimkooGsN BRi24hVCvsfxIoIjX37ntfiiSuCtucNnJs6vY= Received: by 10.146.84.6 with SMTP id h6mr306749yab.19.1296322705890; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.6.2 with SMTP id 2ls1314198ybf.7.p; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.50.2 with SMTP id c2mr1978410ybk.1.1296322704638; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:38:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.10.12 with SMTP id n12mr285810wfi.53.1296322285163; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 09:31:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 70.49.36.48 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <0217ce78-07c6-44bd-b410-8e2573dbc69b@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Complicated parallelism question From: Hussell To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: jeremyhussell@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1125 Seems to me y'all are over-complicating things. {la loglan e ba za bo la lojban} will do the job. Keeping the conjunction inside the abstraction gives "A long time ago, I read that Loglan, then after some time, Lojban, existed."; meaning that a single event of reading- learning occurred, during which I learned Lojban came into existence some time after Loglan. mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo du'u la loglan e ba za bo la lojban zasti Since that isn't correct, {mi cilre lo du'u la loglan zasti} can be converted to {mi cilre lo ka zasti ku la loglan}. mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo ka zasti ku la loglan e ba za bo la lojban Concise, and correct. Of course, if conciseness is the goal, you can even go as far as mi puzu tidycli lo zatkai la loglan ebazabo la lojban -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.