Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjGcm-00084q-3c; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:29 -0800 Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19sf1224268pxi.16 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bvU/vmWFdViXjd7OxUCze9rOMcUIwkx6gMbrvSokQzE=; b=fzomIfD45qnse8WLfLCgGL61kYNNLn46HGqSio4eymx619VBR0CMDeWKcIemMPEqS2 TQ4IVGX4dZbqGdI0lqhcYeuspC4YUfs+CcStlhaBFlmMqRLmIe+79dD18rE1uR7KWWyz lw/GQVVeV7FQyLoqMHr6c+/rhtyfWsBXpQSQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=wO5wgBICeuVsTMmqnFC02eYyQDej/h8RyAwbTWt49lM/9/89Qk9RBH0pJ0Jlz7xgM9 RSuFiqfdnl+dLncE99JchIMHwLY81loSoFYfsxawgZ4tcDy18WFx3Y7HLUA/FXhKNlWG EvzrC+jOsdHiqfoEfQ7grgvnQYEqP+GXNJmek= Received: by 10.142.192.9 with SMTP id p9mr262402wff.40.1296329882740; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:02 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.249.41 with SMTP id w41ls5493614wfh.1.p; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.2 with SMTP id w2mr921774wff.52.1296329881794; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.199.2 with SMTP id w2mr921773wff.52.1296329881759; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-px0-f170.google.com (mail-px0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w13si21220459wfh.7.2011.01.29.11.38.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.170; Received: by pxi19 with SMTP id 19so745392pxi.29 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.134.11 with SMTP id h11mr3597268wfd.422.1296329880603; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.68.21 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:38:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0217ce78-07c6-44bd-b410-8e2573dbc69b@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com> References: <0217ce78-07c6-44bd-b410-8e2573dbc69b@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 14:38:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Complicated parallelism question From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32c8a0b8e0d049b015241 Content-Length: 4216 --000e0cd32c8a0b8e0d049b015241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 A TAG BO parses. Awesome. mu'o mi'e .latros. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Hussell wrote: > Seems to me y'all are over-complicating things. {la loglan e ba za bo > la lojban} will do the job. Keeping the conjunction inside the > abstraction gives "A long time ago, I read that Loglan, then after > some time, Lojban, existed."; meaning that a single event of reading- > learning occurred, during which I learned Lojban came into existence > some time after Loglan. > > mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo du'u la loglan e ba za bo la lojban zasti > > Since that isn't correct, {mi cilre lo du'u la loglan zasti} can be > converted to {mi cilre lo ka zasti ku la loglan}. > > mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo ka zasti ku la loglan e ba za bo la lojban > > Concise, and correct. Of course, if conciseness is the goal, you can > even go as far as > > mi puzu tidycli lo zatkai la loglan ebazabo la lojban > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --000e0cd32c8a0b8e0d049b015241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 A TAG BO parses. Awesome.

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Hussell <jeremyhussell@gmail.com> wrote:
Seems to me y'all are over-complicating things. {la loglan e ba za bo
la lojban} will do the job. Keeping the conjunction inside the
abstraction gives "A long time ago, I read that Loglan, then after
some time, Lojban, existed."; meaning that a single event of reading-
learning occurred, during which I learned Lojban came into existence
some time after Loglan.

mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo du'u la loglan e ba za bo la lojban zasti

Since that isn't correct, {mi cilre lo du'u la loglan zasti} can be
converted to {mi cilre lo ka zasti ku la loglan}.

mi pu zu tcidu cilre lo ka zasti ku la loglan e ba za bo la lojban

Concise, and correct. Of course, if conciseness is the goal, you can
even go as far as

mi puzu tidycli lo zatkai la loglan ebazabo la lojban

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