Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjN9k-0004J0-VQ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:52 -0800 Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10sf1996089fxm.16 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=8WX9nT1+9bEKO+DEdGSYBeHxlhBrE9UV1XWBGD2QKGU=; b=6/nQ4RZQKpmeeA6aPuCRrsFeEboODhfpwV4xzn0l8dReqBEwfLBf+TWcjbzAyE+pMQ weiVIkp2i09WryWq7Bw/dTV+bnTNci5WKuGp+lzfwulacChXxUtzLezsQkBZL2thmYVt wrKnmD7tJx/phP2XvXJkAcrmAcx0Vl2UApd2k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject :to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ofbhgVBPkZXNKKlJgdkXh6EqSuPnQ1fHC5qEF6LjhryGqgbO+BmwO6JwPaGnS0Snfr 21fPoywxnN+Z6Ph/Bk7dyt1DAKsDxx3Bd8hqnb0HXLEXUkRDhAHgYRua5MlFnASNAs5U zO5uNmMN28dUw8BqSTgYRFY+EG66NWPjJ7n20= Received: by 10.223.93.193 with SMTP id w1mr367781fam.37.1296354990739; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:30 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.86.4 with SMTP id q4ls1077712fal.0.p; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.73.197 with SMTP id r5mr385834faj.0.1296354989813; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.73.197 with SMTP id r5mr385833faj.0.1296354989779; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f54.google.com (mail-fx0-f54.google.com [209.85.161.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k4si2227075fax.6.2011.01.29.18.36.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.54; Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so4869325fxm.27 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.118.136 with SMTP id v8mr4286335faq.90.1296354988586; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.66.220 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 18:36:07 -0800 (PST) From: Oren Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 21:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] preti: sequential naming for long-term reference To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b4c298f64a049b072aee Content-Length: 3343 --001636c5b4c298f64a049b072aee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 da'i let's suppose I was writing a diary in lojban, and kept track of some very mundane things, like what route I took to the store, or what pants I was wearing. Some of these may have a chronological sequence that I might refer to and internally keep track of my routes/pants. In english, I might say I took "the first route" to the store, while wearing my "third" pair of pants. da'isa'u let's say I don't want to use { pa mai } for "first" because it may not actually be first chronologically, but only the first that i mention in my diary. Would it make sense to just say { le pa pluta } "That first route; Route 1" { le re pluta } "That second/other route; Route 2" { le pa palku } "Those first pants; Pants 1" { le re palku } "Those second/other pants; Pants 2" ... which la/le/lo/li should I use for this? Is there a better way? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --001636c5b4c298f64a049b072aee Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
da'i let's suppose I was writing a diary in lojban= , and kept track of some very mundane things, like what route I took to the= store, or what pants I was wearing. Some of these may have a chronological= sequence that I might refer to and internally keep track of my routes/pant= s. In english, I might say I took "the first route" to the store,= while wearing my "third" pair of pants.

da'isa'u let's say I don't want to use = =A0{ pa mai } for "first" because it may not actually be first ch= ronologically, but only the first that i mention in my diary. Would it make= sense to just say=A0

{ le pa pluta }=A0"That fir= st route; Route 1"
{ le re pluta }=A0"That second/other rout= e; Route 2"
{ le pa palku }=A0"Those first p= ants; Pants 1"
{ le re palku }=A0"Those second/other pants; Pants 2"
... which la/le/lo/li should I use for this? Is there a better = way?

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