Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjQfd-0007Yx-Ne; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:22:02 -0800 Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10sf2021636fxm.16 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/+rqbgwt+i/keZKcO61PSn5oiYz4Q9upBEoEw4+a4z4=; b=lnSqm80Wx4/g1OfngSyHG09Gb19W19wplaTbOJcebPpIp3Ez33L9CwLCKVNi6tUMML 5MntZsjb44XcvIGqp5bZKL/YY/fUn5UvjQWYK00TF7Orgcp5fmxso0y8JVDTfKyOTk6g BePirWOhDXiY5ERey570j/JDfgfvPgH4RPTr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ezwKg9PAkpMfjW2W60WqCHsa3ebmCqOVSeNf0Pqy6MirZVXLAEOimy1DawqAIQTLrB 1AgT3+OfU9fIRabRVSV+q3yh7dgJHWN989n/U7KzQ4bZEQBm5y+Ug6N8JvZveD1i6nuT TxhtJ5pY869uaP4vLN0fIb8Vb2vme9RgIjLI4= Received: by 10.223.71.197 with SMTP id i5mr372000faj.33.1296368499148; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:39 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.68.84 with SMTP id u20ls651729bki.3.p; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.52.65 with SMTP id h1mr439799bkg.1.1296368498287; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.52.65 with SMTP id h1mr439798bkg.1.1296368498265; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dd11si3525033bkb.4.2011.01.29.22.21.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.44; Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so4898114fxm.3 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.79.7 with SMTP id n7mr4488777fak.71.1296368496864; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.66.220 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jan 2011 22:21:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7098699.2072.1296363137187.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prig8> From: Oren Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 01:21:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] preti: sequential naming for long-term reference To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: get.oren@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of get.oren@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=get.oren@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=485b393ab865c0ee2c049b0a4f57 Content-Length: 8709 --485b393ab865c0ee2c049b0a4f57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm applying lojban to an automated record-keeping task. For my particular use case, i'm interested in keeping name/sumti-position information in a unified, brief format for consistent parsing, and bundling all the functional information in the full bridi. I guess it's an aesthetic decision in the end, but it seems appropriate for this use case. On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:12, Luke Bergen wrote: > In what way is "lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi" more brief than "mi dasni lo > pamoi palku"? > > They're both equally valid. I'm just curious since you said earlier that > you were going for brevity. > > > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Oren wrote: > >> { mi klama fo le pa moi ku } >> or just >> { mi klama fo le pamoi } >> >> mmm. I like that solution. For pants I could do: >> >> { lo mi tuple ku cu dasni lo pa moi ku } >> or just >> { lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi } >> >> beautiful. ki'ecai >> >> On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 23:52, Lindar wrote: >> >>> If you want to be -extremely- brief, you could say {le pamoi ku}. One can >>> glean from context what it could be in the case of {klama fo le pamoi} or >>> somesuch. >>> However, that's the most brief you'll be able to get, unless I've missed >>> something. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Oren Robinson >> (315) 569-2888 >> 102 Morrison Ave >> Somerville, MA 02144 >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- Oren Robinson (315) 569-2888 102 Morrison Ave Somerville, MA 02144 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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I'm applying lojban to an automated record-keeping tas= k. For my particular use case, i'm interested in keeping name/sumti-pos= ition information in a unified, brief format for consistent parsing, and bu= ndling all the functional information in the full bridi. I guess it's a= n aesthetic decision in the end, but it seems appropriate for this use case= .

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 01:12, Luke Bergen <= span dir=3D"ltr"><lukeabergen@g= mail.com> wrote:
In what way is "lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi" more brief than &q= uot;mi dasni lo pamoi palku"?

They're both equa= lly valid. =A0I'm just curious since you said earlier that you were goi= ng for brevity.


On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Oren <ge= t.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
{ mi klama fo le pa moi ku }=A0
or just
{ mi klama fo le pamoi }

mmm. I like that soluti= on. For pants I could do:

{ lo mi tuple ku cu dasni lo pa moi k= u }
or just
{ lo mi tuple cu dasni lo pamoi }

beautiful. ki'ecai

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 23:52, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com&g= t; wrote:
If you want to be -extremely- brief, you cou= ld say {le pamoi ku}. One can glean from context what it could be in the ca= se of {klama fo le pamoi} or somesuch.
However, that's the most brief you'll be able to get, unless I'= ve missed something.

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