Received: from mail-pw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PjZSe-00088b-5f; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:45:15 -0800 Received: by pwi2 with SMTP id 2sf1887099pwi.16 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:45:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=OAe6/W8NS2WTajpRFEFeD1TPnZ5gQL6w1biISJOTktk=; b=EsNMZO/3mJv22NukEm1L5sQ+DMa3I/pN/RJ0JnYKKEIjKLbgF2uhgXb5Pq3nRmfWI+ ejkWAuZOcrMVpvaq+lBUQfeOV1y7ES5A9+H0vvmKkM4uua0e6o0SxLGdDE0Zli0djMAg lB3dQwD+yFFRCjaOpKrjXrt49McWbL67HBzA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=2UpMUUlP/8DKMg8whfn0o8dbhImjq6+jnFrZLjU7v1+7CHxB6mla0k2gNczVFETPhK Mon5d0K3vAeTGnlJK203xwrgjMT0u4w5t28g/inG/D+kbXRLYzaWGX6wqao9c6ukI77o LEkyDuJOCKShqmka0HKgmmqNbJNH0XfZBePs4= Received: by 10.142.178.17 with SMTP id a17mr320763wff.34.1296402290025; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.121.31 with SMTP id t31ls6460194wfc.3.p; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.47.20 with SMTP id u20mr1123492wfu.73.1296402289166; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.47.20 with SMTP id u20mr1123491wfu.73.1296402289135; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pw0-f51.google.com (mail-pw0-f51.google.com [209.85.160.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p40si22209413wfc.2.2011.01.30.07.44.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.51; Received: by pwj4 with SMTP id 4so914604pwj.10 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.134.11 with SMTP id h11mr4312608wfd.422.1296402287989; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.142.68.21 with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jan 2011 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:44:47 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] preti: sequential naming for long-term reference From: Ian Johnson To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32c8adc95db049b122d0f Content-Length: 4070 --000e0cd32c8adc95db049b122d0f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think what was confusing is how jbofi'e knew to read it as {pa palku} rather than {papal ku} without spaces or stresses. mu'o mi'e .latros. 2011/1/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Michael Turniansky > wrote: > > You COULD say "la papalku" which would mean "the thing named 'One > > Pant'" (although why that works grammatical, I have NO idea. I > > thought non-cmevla following "la" had to be selbri. jbofi'e however, > > likes it). > > Everything you can do grammatically with LE, you can also do with LA, > so "la pa palku [ku]" and "la mi palku [ku]" are grammatically valid. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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mu'o mi'= e .latros.

2011/1/30 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail= .com>
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com> = wrote:
> =A0You COULD say "la papalku" which would mean "the thi= ng named 'One
> Pant'" (although why that works grammatical, I have NO idea. = =A0I
> thought non-cmevla following "la" had to be selbri. =A0jbofi= 'e however,
> likes it).

Everything you can do grammatically with LE, you can also do with LA,=
so "la pa palku [ku]" and "la mi palku [ku]" are gramma= tically valid.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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