Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PllZR-0007kS-0j; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:05:17 -0800 Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11sf2229126gyb.16 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:05:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=BiYY6AGxONO2zm1zhzr21KsfY+MOEkWX9M1rrB/wabk=; b=Tqaf1S/doUB5n9cup0WXYd7maneW83STTQl/vEJikyY4+ZnRl4iVCthZPs4YKgh8sb bLB+FW4C05u68ep30v99SBrOBfXDYW9+kYNN83nrX39oF14Z91drsKNkhXQcNHiF/Pb2 JTdBKBmfuMYCAjpmHp3sUzm5VEXHEIaSEV1M4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=MoCWJtcutA76abJaifSp2WWOXGM2GnpZYc7BNyCk18xBPn6pdSP+InJjUY0lv350Ul ep9KOHu4/UUgTpq8gcaytWOEhxZ4LH5nOvB7ijv/BsJr5TSQOqVcvvOY0TxQcj2MkXJk ouF+aKrLB7auCf2CCnQNoBSjvbLFwrMlKoDbM= Received: by 10.90.103.17 with SMTP id a17mr1029966agc.17.1296925495235; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:55 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.2.82 with SMTP id 18ls3779311ibi.2.p; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.35.75 with SMTP id o11mr99439ibd.14.1296925494490; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.35.75 with SMTP id o11mr99438ibd.14.1296925494440; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f176.google.com (mail-iy0-f176.google.com [209.85.210.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cu19si427985ibb.1.2011.02.05.09.04.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.176; Received: by mail-iy0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 26so3503240iyb.21 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.19.195 with SMTP id c3mr6046166ibb.176.1296925493004; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 09:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.2 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:04:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110205170157.GA61729@alice.local> References: <201102050750.43795.phma@phma.optus.nu> <20110205170157.GA61729@alice.local> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:04:52 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "Here" From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555f4b24fa502049b8bff4e Content-Length: 4111 --00032555f4b24fa502049b8bff4e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, .alyn.post. wrote: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Remo Dentato wrote: > > On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > > >> Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}? e.g. {mi zvati} for > "I'm > > >> here". Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow? > > > > > > It can be implicit, but to be explicit I'd say "mi zvati ti". "mi bu'u > zvati" > > > means "I am where I am" > > > > I would say {bu'uku mi zvati} for "Here I am!" > > > > remod > > > > I spent a fair bit of time speaking in Lojban to my nearest > available 1 year old, and one phrase I hadn't quite figured > out is "come here!" > > I gather that I could say: "ko bu'umi zvati" > > Good? Is there something better? I think I've been hung up > on this one by the short and imperative nature of the English > statement. > > -Alan > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi "Come here!"? {ko klama ti}, of course. ;) -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. 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On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.p= ost@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Remo Dentato wr= ote:
> On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
> >> Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}? =A0e= .g. {mi zvati} for "I'm
> >> here". =A0Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow? > >
> > It can be implicit, but to be explicit I'd say "mi zvati= ti". "mi bu'u zvati"
> > means "I am where I am"
>
> I would say {bu'uku mi zvati} for "Here I am!"
>
> remod
>

I spent a fair bit of time speaking in Lojban to my nearest
available 1 year old, and one phrase I hadn't quite figured
out is "come here!"

I gather that I could say: "ko bu'umi zvati"

Good? =A0Is there something better? =A0I think I've been hung up
on this one by the short and imperative nature of the English
statement.

-Alan
--
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

"Come here!&qu= ot;? {ko klama ti}, of course. ;)

--
mu'o mi&#= 39;e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be de= npa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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