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.i ki'u zi'o go'i

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

> .i ki'u ma lo prenu na ka'e se klama .i e'u lu ko klama mi li'u
>
> mu'o mi'e .latros.
>
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:01 AM, .alyn.post. <
>> alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Remo Dentato wrote:
>>> > On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
>>> > >> Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}?  e.g. {mi zvati} for
>>> "I'm
>>> > >> here".  Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow?
>>> > >
>>> > > It can be implicit, but to be explicit I'd say "mi zvati ti". "mi
>>> bu'u zvati"
>>> > > means "I am where I am"
>>> >
>>> > I would say {bu'uku mi zvati} for "Here I am!"
>>> >
>>> > remod
>>> >
>>>
>>> I spent a fair bit of time speaking in Lojban to my nearest
>>> available 1 year old, and one phrase I hadn't quite figured
>>> out is "come here!"
>>>
>>> I gather that I could say: "ko bu'umi zvati"
>>>
>>> Good?  Is there something better?  I think I've been hung up
>>> on this one by the short and imperative nature of the English
>>> statement.
>>>
>>> -Alan
>>> --
>>> .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi
>>
>>
>> "Come here!"? {ko klama ti}, of course. ;)
>>
>> --
>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>
>> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu
>> do zo'o
>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>>
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zo'o
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.i ki&#39;u zi&#39;o go&#39;i<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb=
 5, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:b=
lindbravado@gmail.com">blindbravado@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
.i ki&#39;u ma lo prenu na ka&#39;e se klama .i e&#39;u lu ko klama mi li&#=
39;u<br><br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .latros.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv><div></div><div class=3D"h5">On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Jonathan J=
ones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><=
/div><div class=3D"h5"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 =
at 10:01 AM, .alyn.post. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:alyn.post@=
lodockikumazvati.org" target=3D"_blank">alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Remo Dentato wrote:<br>
&gt; On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma=
@phma.optus.nu" target=3D"_blank">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Is it reasonable to imply &quot;here&quot; with {zvati}? =A0e=
.g. {mi zvati} for &quot;I&#39;m<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; here&quot;. =A0Is it much better to use {bu&#39;u} somehow?<b=
r>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; It can be implicit, but to be explicit I&#39;d say &quot;mi zvati=
 ti&quot;. &quot;mi bu&#39;u zvati&quot;<br>
&gt; &gt; means &quot;I am where I am&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I would say {bu&#39;uku mi zvati} for &quot;Here I am!&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; remod<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>I spent a fair bit of time speaking in Lojban to my nearest<br>
available 1 year old, and one phrase I hadn&#39;t quite figured<br>
out is &quot;come here!&quot;<br>
<br>
I gather that I could say: &quot;ko bu&#39;umi zvati&quot;<br>
<br>
Good? =A0Is there something better? =A0I think I&#39;ve been hung up<br>
on this one by the short and imperative nature of the English<br>
statement.<br>
<br>
-Alan<br>
<font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi</font></blockquote></div><br></div>&quot;Come he=
re!&quot;? {ko klama ti}, of course. ;)<br clear=3D"all"><font color=3D"#88=
8888"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.a&#39;o.e&#39;e ko cm=
ima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>


(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )</font></div></div><div>=
<div></div><div><br><br><div class=3D"im">

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