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  Why?  You don't feel that someone can be impaired in their ability to feel
emotion? ;-)


On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm just hypercorrecting phantom malglico, but I don't think "xrani
> ko'a lo ka cinmo" is necessary, when we have
>
> { ko'a gasnu lo nu ko'e badri }
>
> I mean, wounding someone's emotions is certainly poetic, but IMO not the
> most straightforward way to go about making someone unhappy in lojban.
>
>
>


> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:08, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> mu'i da'i lo nu do na djica lo nu xrani ko'a lo ka cinmo   cu bilga fa do
>> lo nu toltce ticysku
>>
>>   da'i still makes hypotheticdals.. what's hypothetical here?  Your
>> motive.
>>        --gejyspa
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:55 AM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbotat@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> If you don't want to hurt her feelings you're going to have to bend the
>>> truth a little. <http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/744560>
>>>
>>> Besides the difficult of translating "bend the truth" (I'm probably going
>>> to use {krori'a pe'a}), I have no idea how to set up the conditional.  It's
>>> not a straight-up logical connective, and {va'o} doesn't quite seem to cut
>>> it for me.
>>>
>>> .e'o sidju
>>>
>>> --
>>> mu'o mi'e .arpis.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 Why?=A0 You don&#39;t feel that someone can be impaire=
d in their ability to feel emotion? ;-)<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Oren <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:get.oren@gmail.com">get.oren@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Maybe I&#39;m just hypercorrecting phantom malglico, but I don&#39;t think =
&quot;xrani ko&#39;a lo ka cinmo&quot; is necessary, when we have<div>
<br></div><div>{ ko&#39;a gasnu lo nu ko&#39;e badri }</div><div>

<br></div><div>I mean, wounding someone&#39;s emotions is certainly poetic,=
 but IMO not the most straightforward way to go about making someone unhapp=
y in lojban.<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br></div></div></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); =
padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:08, Michael Turniansky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mturniansky@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
mu&#39;i da&#39;i lo nu do na djica lo nu xrani ko&#39;a lo ka cinmo=A0=A0 =
cu bilga fa do lo nu toltce ticysku<br>


<br>=A0 da&#39;i still makes hypotheticdals.. what&#39;s hypothetical here?=
=A0 Your motive. <br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa<div><div></div><div><br>
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:55 AM, .ar=
pis. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64%2Bjbotat@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">rpglover64+jbotat@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-l=
eft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">



<a href=3D"http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/744560" target=3D"_blank">=
If you don&#39;t want to hurt her feelings you&#39;re going to have to bend=
 the truth a little.</a><br><br>Besides the difficult of translating &quot;=
bend the truth&quot; (I&#39;m probably going to use {krori&#39;a pe&#39;a})=
, I have no idea how to set up the conditional.=A0 It&#39;s not a straight-=
up logical connective, and {va&#39;o} doesn&#39;t quite seem to cut it for =
me.<br>




<br>.e&#39;o sidju<br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .arpis.<br=
><font color=3D"#888888"><br>

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