Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pn0YE-0003OT-DO; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:17:09 -0800 Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35sf4447010yxn.16 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:17:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=fOJZuZPMgR/zgd5Mdq+R9khiOu/KWl0xWz5Zcnv22E4=; b=P3Ftn2gqG7+nDR7VCifOw5XgqwGC2uXNOKatmmIN7ca3d118fwldJ5d+LecBkxfAoN KpRrDd3VXpfgXU4yC6JH1Pjo95lcyiiR5puGJfVn+MsaMAGp8pnKEui2SW15pv0vIhHX iTmmwOvY/Hd7lygYc/GGir7q9GdcuUo6+JmIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=dlJdlRyqlzu6cLZhsrvkQFfnbzTqj0tq6EWgbWsBD/O7FlDRSjium/+/WbnlboSyZw N4w2mRgy+jLEl8HtdhMe2rXxCKigiheD96jkkPbqN3VMrEqdY8GPb9TrV00jZPnIjmXB uyV/TxofOlv6HiKTvcBaej5Mn3HQpKgp1go7s= Received: by 10.101.8.30 with SMTP id l30mr665228ani.51.1297221409576; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:49 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls263182ibb.1.p; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.172.146 with SMTP id l18mr7527669ibz.2.1297221408591; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.172.146 with SMTP id l18mr7527667ibz.2.1297221408552; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f176.google.com (mail-iw0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m30si67856ibu.2.2011.02.08.19.16.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.176; Received: by mail-iw0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 2so7039149iwn.21 for ; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.141 with SMTP id c13mr19822467ibd.101.1297221407644; Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.199.2 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:16:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110209024014.GA73315@alice.local> References: <20110209024014.GA73315@alice.local> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 20:16:47 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] translation check on zo-related quote From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534d28f32a58a049bd0e56d Content-Length: 4525 --00221534d28f32a58a049bd0e56d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Attempting to keep as close to the English as possible: {ganai do djuno be lodu'u pilno zo zo ja reisku gi do xa'o djuno lo danfu} or, to use only non-experimental cmavo: {ganai do djuno be lodu'u pilno zo zo ja reisku gi do puco'i djuno lo danfu} I'm not exactly happy about using ja, as that's "and/or", but I don't know what's better. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:40 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > I'm editing the zo[1] page on the wiki, and I want to translate the > following text to Lojban: > > if you know how to use zo and ask, you already know the answer. > > Taking some liberties, I've got this: > > go do nunpreti zo zo gi do djuno lo du'u pilno zo zo > > Can you make it better? > > -Alan > > 1: http://lojban.org/tiki/zo > -- > .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --00221534d28f32a58a049bd0e56d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attempting to keep as close to the English as possible:

{ganai do dj= uno be lodu'u pilno zo zo ja reisku gi do xa'o djuno lo danfu}
<= br>or, to use only non-experimental cmavo:

{ganai do djuno be lodu&#= 39;u pilno zo zo ja reisku gi do puco'i djuno lo danfu}

I'm not exactly happy about using ja, as that's "and/or&qu= ot;, but I don't know what's better.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:40 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org= > wrote:
I'm editing t= he zo[1] page on the wiki, and I want to translate the
following text to Lojban:

=A0if you know how to use zo and ask, you already know the answer.

Taking some liberties, I've got this:

=A0go do nunpreti zo zo gi do djuno lo du'u pilno zo zo

Can you make it better?

-Alan

1: http://lojban.or= g/tiki/zo
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.i ko djuno fi le do sevzi

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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa= bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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