On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 9:39 AM, .alyn.post. = <aly= n.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:

Will you help clarify some confusion I'm having, then?:

lo mamta =A0 =A0=3D> mother
lo se mamta =3D> child =A0(not quite the right gloss, I don't think = that
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 matters in this case)
mamta =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D> mothering/motherness?

lo ponse =A0 =A0=3D> owner
lo se ponse =3D> possesion
ponse =A0 =A0 =A0 =3D> possessing/ownership?

I don't quite get how one gets grandmother out of mamymamta, though
I've confused the special significance that an x1 place has before.

It seems in this case though that mamymamta either takes one meaning
for the first mam (mothering) and another meaning for the second
(mother), or that my gloss for mamta is wrong and it doesn't express motherness at all, but an actual mother.

What am not understanding?

-Alan

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:26:02AM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote:
> =A0 =A0that makes the most sense to me.. although my first thought whe= n I saw
> =A0 =A0{ponse ponse} was something like {ba'e ponse}... not that I= know what the
> =A0 =A0difference between {ponse} and {ba'e ponse} is but... that = was my first
> =A0 =A0thought. (though as I said, I do like gejyspa's interpretat= ion better).
>
> =A0 =A0On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Michael Turniansky

> =A0 =A0<[1]mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
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> =A0 =A0 =A0An owner of an owner, I suppose...
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0lo mi gerku cu ponse lo bolci .iseni'ibo mi ponse ponse=
> =A0 =A0 =A0--gejyspa

> =A0 =A0 =A0On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Pierre Abbat <[2]= phma@phma.optus.nu>

> =A0 =A0 =A0wrote:
> =A0 =A0 =A0> On Wednesday 02 February 2011 14:44:22 .alyn.post. wro= te:
> =A0 =A0 =A0>> .i fo ma fu lo nu valsi rapli cu tanru .i lu ponse= ponse li'u mupli
> =A0 =A0 =A0>>
> =A0 =A0 =A0>> What does word doubling mean in a tanru? For examp= le: {ponse
> =A0 =A0 =A0>> ponse}
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
> =A0 =A0 =A0> "klakyklaku klakyklaku klaku" is used in The= Restaurant of Many Orders
> =A0 =A0 =A0> for "cried and cried and cried and cried and crie= d". "mamymamta"
> =A0 =A0 =A0(lujvo jenai
> =A0 =A0 =A0> tanru) means "maternal grandmother", and sim= ilarly "pafpatfu". I'm not
> =A0 =A0 =A0sure
> =A0 =A0 =A0> what "ponse ponse" would mean.
> =A0 =A0 =A0>
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