Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189])
	by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72)
	(envelope-from <lojban-beginners+bncCMHEmaCOBhC04s_qBBoE4miG2A@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1PnXBm-0005Ey-Hz; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:08:11 -0800
Received: by yxn35 with SMTP id 35sf1046572yxn.16
        for <multiple recipients>; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:59 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version
         :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
         :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to
         :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive
         :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type;
        bh=u9HdyZgU7HRvRTNfhKlgnPja0kGsAh/0TdQWFtgynRk=;
        b=FSZeQekU2EP/aWJu3OzA0mptVgg5AfE3QLzXqS4gVWgLrzV1O2lNS/P2dGhdlaOr4S
         2U2qVgcYuhLl3uuicmAg7wvu1ycWYM3mEsKFaBVFoQnWqAViR7I7rvFWHgRNEt38JCfi
         +iddAhCAKwYvRW+HV23fxYR1yfcoft6XFem4A=
DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date
         :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender
         :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
         :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe
         :list-unsubscribe:content-type;
        b=4WhJb4pJaYom5Ry8XjqiN2Jlc2ELBxY4L9IcVHJLjaWFLmQPZ8QfXam7bGHU8BWZGB
         wt7JO1/R3lT89hqffCijwvU8agNnbZpbVx0ezem6AjjflFPwlla2xNI+3e+++qr2byLM
         a2G9zk/4j9i8B9ZhtGGaJog+1BUnThY1sfCiA=
Received: by 10.236.105.147 with SMTP id k19mr77993yhg.1.1297346868549;
        Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:48 -0800 (PST)
X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls824184ibk.3.p; Thu, 10 Feb 2011
 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.231.30.202 with SMTP id v10mr8217735ibc.4.1297346867394;
        Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.231.30.202 with SMTP id v10mr8217733ibc.4.1297346867356;
        Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-iw0-f175.google.com (mail-iw0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jo1si6750icb.5.2011.02.10.06.07.47
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.175;
Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so1302356iwn.34
        for <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.231.39.76 with SMTP id f12mr22177491ibe.126.1297346867143;
 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.231.199.2 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:07:47 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <8276111.993.1297312801784.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm35>
References: <AANLkTi=qyR_PDRPhCWrx9ijRa-aatPZh+VKTbocnp5i9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8276111.993.1297312801784.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm35>
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:07:47 -0700
Message-ID: <AANLkTikJN_3DAs4a1B7ZQZ87Ns1daB87tKiW_t-hQGrd@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] translation check on zo-related quote
From: Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban-beginners.googlegroups.com>
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban-beginners+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en_US>
Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/subscribe?hl=en_US>,
 <mailto:lojban-beginners+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners/subscribe?hl=en_US>,
 <mailto:lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032557335a2aa957049bee1bae
Content-Length: 3506

--00032557335a2aa957049bee1bae
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Frankly, neither of these make any sense.
>
> djuno lo du'u pilno zo zo <--- know that *subject* uses "zo".
>
> {ganai do djuno be lodu'u pilno zo zo ja reisku gi do puco'i djuno lo
> danfu}
> If you know *unnecessary {be}* that you use "zo", then you know that an
> answer.
>

The {be} is not unnecessary, Lindar. It's needed to attach {lodu'u pilno zo
zo} to the x2 of {djuno} in {djuno ja reisku}.

"If you know the fact of using 'zo' and ask, then you already knew the
answer."


> =D
>
> Frankly, the English doesn't make sense to me in the first place.
>



-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do
zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.


--00032557335a2aa957049bee1bae
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Lindar <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@yahoo.com">lindarthebard@yahoo=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Frankly, neither of these make any sense.<div><br></div><div>djuno lo du&#3=
9;u pilno zo zo &lt;--- know that *subject* uses &quot;zo&quot;.</div><div =
class=3D"im"><div><br></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(34, 34, 34)">{gan=
ai do djuno be lodu&#39;u pilno zo zo ja reisku gi do puco&#39;i djuno lo d=
anfu}</span><br>
</div></div><div><font color=3D"#222222">If you know *unnecessary {be}* tha=
t you use &quot;zo&quot;, then you know that an answer.</font></div></block=
quote><div><br></div><div>The {be} is not=A0unnecessary, Lindar. It&#39;s n=
eeded to attach {lodu&#39;u pilno zo zo} to the x2 of {djuno} in {djuno ja =
reisku}.</div>
<div><br></div><div>&quot;If you know the fact of using &#39;zo&#39; and as=
k, then you already knew the answer.&quot;</div><div>=A0</div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex;">
<div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(34, 34, 34); ">=
=3DD</span></div><div><font color=3D"#222222"><br></font></div><div><font c=
olor=3D"#222222">Frankly, the English doesn&#39;t make sense to me in the f=
irst place.</font></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aion=
ys.<br><br>.i.a&#39;o.e&#39;e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i =
doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your fat=
her. :D )<br>
<br>

<p></p>

-- <br />
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "=
Lojban Beginners" group.<br />
To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com.<br =
/>
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@=
googlegroups.com.<br />

For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban=
-beginners?hl=3Den.<br />



--00032557335a2aa957049bee1bae--