Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pl7Iw-0000WU-LV; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:33 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf1059846gxk.16 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=L7QoXS7/fcKUex84uW9l0sLPJ/alM/VaL8LGvHsN/g0=; b=T7Sm2J0C8DRx6bCWQwk0iSOT2YiuIlwNqs/gcLDjx99C+Ma/whaQ74ppQheEOW/Thc J+kuMj3hlqXECw5AcpUdatYxKGZEBFNKKtaflKRcJzOg+gMzF+Gxx4+nqvkFH7QcE2oa RI2i65MUxBgxENsXA5l4Pr4ZdBZm2QbRMJDzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=sS5njszHiREkVyrbkX1oKrWZv4Vmt+CUwvI00Ucil7M65lDPM5HBqwPKxg6HXkfyIS yBTjpbN7DYr9GLNR2OubF4UqIPj/Ej2eLRjjxDBM3WECmU9+cIsGyUk9Hns1gR1QRXbR 3v3tdjvO4Xzupy9J30psm1BQXrOH/9e9dAUU0= Received: by 10.100.194.9 with SMTP id r9mr424106anf.42.1296770713269; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls2139900ibk.3.p; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.34.6 with SMTP id j6mr5155593ibd.10.1296770712517; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.34.6 with SMTP id j6mr5155592ibd.10.1296770712473; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f171.google.com (mail-iy0-f171.google.com [209.85.210.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j25si3405ibb.4.2011.02.03.14.05.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.171; Received: by iyj21 with SMTP id 21so1709370iyj.2 for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.16.200 with SMTP id p8mr12195882iba.181.1296770711250; Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.200.194 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Feb 2011 14:05:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:05:11 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Lujvo forming with cmavo rafsi From: Luke Bergen To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=002215046c7b996716049b67f55f Content-Length: 4706 --002215046c7b996716049b67f55f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There are plenty of lujvo for which, if you pulled it apart into a tanru it would seem kind of funny. Remember, lujvo are NOT just a shortened form of tanru. They are their own definitions. Using reasonable rafsi to compose the lujvo certainly makes it easier to get at the meaning if you've never seen the word before, but "rolcatra" for "omnikiller" seems perfectly legitimate. The definition could be {x1 catra x2 po'u roda} On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: > (The first time I asked this question, I accidentally sent it to the > haskell mailing list. I think everyone had a good laugh at my expense.) > > Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to ta'o this is > due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi). {ro zei catra} > or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong. > > {ro zei se catra} seems like it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra? > > I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't have a > tanru as the basis. > > -- > Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --002215046c7b996716049b67f55f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are plenty of lujvo for which, if you pulled it apart into a tanru it= would seem kind of funny. =A0Remember, lujvo are NOT just a shortened form= of tanru. =A0They are their own definitions. =A0Using reasonable rafsi to = compose the lujvo certainly makes it easier to get at the meaning if you= 9;ve never seen the word before, but "rolcatra" for "omnikil= ler" seems perfectly legitimate. =A0

The definition could be {x1 catra x2 po'u roda}

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn = <rpglover64@gm= ail.com> wrote:
(The first time I asked this question, I ac= cidentally sent it to the haskell mailing list.=A0 I think everyone had a g= ood laugh at my expense.)

Specifically, I want to form a lujvo meaning "omnicide" (to t= a'o this is due to the tvtropes trope "Omnicidal Maniac" ta'onai toi).= =A0 {ro zei=20 catra} or {rolcatra} seems to be wrong.

{ro zei se catra} seems like= it's all the victims, so maybe selrolselcatra?

I'm not quite clear on what it means to be a lujvo if you don't= have a tanru as the basis.

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