Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PlNYk-0001z7-MO; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:27:00 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf1549867yia.16 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject :message-id:mail-followup-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=MpQY2PVN4nOITHSGa8z2KA2/qfdQbvaC2fuaOavtg7E=; b=istZm/EtVkzcrrJw+5oV2zELt8+KU7U2nQwZ14uaWONlu0ftrHaOK5anKzQuFYNbIZ RvTHl9fhsueilr4BNzwyte09++58O9MrEhNcU1sihO1U4X/c2hF2I5IR/vry/grDSGD8 lxvaTXl4xxilWqAmi5KxAoqzvWiEh7VX8XI/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; b=apIsIMWZP7kubfaDPLOLdDrUhQt2wnmZb1eFfBv19kT3D+K6D4CYGb3YXxpXD9mCdu 0j89/wWMSlgeww70A5DRGT7zQjoQN7NCNZi/0Ks7k3HpIJcsjPZqIdZGdzUYc3434duN BIJDU4aJ/L+RBpI9a1m4+nwg/Nn17T0Uk3wWY= Received: by 10.150.230.20 with SMTP id c20mr1210347ybh.67.1296833197565; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:37 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.173.16 with SMTP id v16ls1456061ybe.5.p; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.37 with SMTP id p25mr5251883yhg.10.1296833195907; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.108.37 with SMTP id p25mr5251881yhg.10.1296833195884; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-gy0-f174.google.com (mail-gy0-f174.google.com [209.85.160.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g10si89830yhd.13.2011.02.04.07.26.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.174 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) client-ip=209.85.160.174; Received: by gyb11 with SMTP id 11so1178139gyb.5 for ; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.147.83.17 with SMTP id k17mr127134yal.9.1296833195616; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunflowerriver.org (c-68-35-165-60.hsd1.nm.comcast.net [68.35.165.60]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a50sm490180yhd.0.2011.02.04.07.26.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:26:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 08:26:30 -0700 From: ".alyn.post." To: Lojban Beginners Subject: [lojban-beginners] elidable terminator discussion in CLL? Message-ID: <20110204152630.GA59178@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: Lojban Beginners Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.174 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1119 The CLL frequently uses the phrase "elidable terminator." I'm looking for a place in the book where this phrase is defined, and preferably also a formal statement that elidable terminators bind to their closest marker: to to toi => (to (to toi)) lu lu li'u => (lu (lu li'u)) Is true, whereas: to to toi => (to (to) toi) lu lu li'u => (lu (lu) li'u) Is incorrect. Can someone point me to the chapter where this concept is discussed? It is indirectly discussed all over the place, for specific terminators, but I can't seem to find the principle described anywhere. I'm aware of the list of elidable terminators: http://dag.github.com/cll/19/17/ But that page does not discuss usage or define them. -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.