Received: from mail-gx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Plfw3-0007UF-82; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:04:16 -0800 Received: by gxk19 with SMTP id 19sf2094160gxk.16 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:04:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bSLjfDunBH8p+kPNqTLNQR5eLoQHvbt2+uDmPMTtJiE=; b=b/Y1H6lmvoTRPLl5eIDQQWN79vSbD9xJK5NI6jL90LY3jXJSx6WhsUlCnY9MDkVvbk v/dFOIGjNGvdLvnGHeUBG/lvuUamGYt7ZRJJa3/P4bdPZMP+FIUygjdyDBMxasLfSW1V rAxThuDRwTedP53Z1uElgQmJPKi2KdN3Jkh2w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ecYM7rCUodp/7hOSWxAmQpGZjpjUUoixHBFl6r1Vk96NSrPzmVBQdBxarTSbflviZP 2ayFrHBJmu36nDJ8L7dkRDPoR5GwY41QrljUjlwYmsUZc+Yw8/dJ7jHeZl1lU5Y898Ld AEfMx7VlrUmZ0APMLDpf0HaUUoPlbd4gWW5Wk= Received: by 10.91.17.22 with SMTP id u22mr997129agi.22.1296903833662; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.200.3 with SMTP id eu3ls3590913ibb.1.p; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.219.132 with SMTP id hu4mr1960349icb.20.1296903832471; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.219.132 with SMTP id hu4mr1960348icb.20.1296903832450; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iw0-f173.google.com (mail-iw0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gf5si260367icb.2.2011.02.05.03.03.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.173; Received: by mail-iw0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 10so3331949iwc.32 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.174.197 with SMTP id w5mr641589icz.145.1296903831143; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 03:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.166.202 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 03:03:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3794527.1160.1296844129707.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prnp16> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:03:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Friends will be friends From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8a5029c343049b86f495 Content-Length: 4418 --90e6ba6e8a5029c343049b86f495 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What about {lo pendo ba ca'a pendo}? It seems to carry the implication "Friends will be *true* friends" (whatever that means) without resorting to too many words. Maybe even {lo pendo ca'a pendo}, leaving out the temporal tense. In that vein, {jetnu xu fa lo du'u lo nu'o broda cu broda .ibo go'i xu lo du'u lo broda nu'o broda} On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Remo Dentato wrote: > Actually I always interpreted the line "Friends will be friends" in that > song as "Real friends will remain friends forever". > So it's not just the tautology that "those who are friends will behave as > friends do" but more the fact that you can rely on the fact that they will > continue to behave that way in the future (possibly when you will need > them). > > {lo pendo ba pendo} seems good to me. {lo ca pendo ba pendo} seems too > pedantic. > > remod > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --90e6ba6e8a5029c343049b86f495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What about {lo pendo ba ca'a pendo}?=A0 It seems to carry the implicati= on "Friends will be true friends" (whatever that means) wi= thout resorting to too many words.=A0 Maybe even {lo pendo ca'a pendo},= leaving out the temporal tense.

In that vein, {jetnu xu fa lo du'u lo nu'o broda cu broda .ibo = go'i xu lo du'u lo broda nu'o broda}

On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Remo Dentato <= rdentato@gmail.com> wro= te:
Actually I always= interpreted the line "Friends will be friends" in that song as &= quot;Real friends will remain friends forever".
So it's not just the tautology that "those who are friends will be= have as friends do" but more the fact that you can rely on the fact th= at they will continue to behave that way in the future (possibly when you w= ill need them).

{lo pendo ba pendo} seems good to me. {lo ca pendo ba pendo} seems too = pedantic.

remod



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