Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PlivH-0007tg-Km; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:41 -0800 Received: by qyl38 with SMTP id 38sf5475212qyl.16 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BJH6oUzt2BlkfKIcu2FwBaJqrEIpag5UcUvCEjCFkug=; b=aCYU4Zyizr6qHhosRF8hd++hmEeos7L4FFGAZpUgbwxt7MXcMRoIe35edMjOOvKQkZ PFRrVobKybe2qPGv6GJ2svttvdGtQuu5yHdtx3EtM9bbMu9UpqXsUWwItGM1Cua4Yiv3 OQWWCtk3y8WeONSQJbYMZjtMAw5JpYix8N5ak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AEztRl7xnGVod8eFG6wGUN9BQjTnk4UNc+cF6mxKnvNvKAp54C+HSqEpOu0tDvHZLp 6GxxccB9CaSL8Gl52XwQW6AuJJWgbQGdsbeWck0ki9jLYdVBwK7SaxcwRuwzrL66dDyT nYp9PKlumbhYhLzN7PhPnsSlGPiSpXiSr17gA= Received: by 10.229.30.213 with SMTP id v21mr1519353qcc.35.1296915317968; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.195.134 with SMTP id ec6ls1069942qcb.2.p; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.96.2 with SMTP id f2mr966333qcn.27.1296915317163; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.96.2 with SMTP id f2mr966332qcn.27.1296915317142; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qw0-f41.google.com (mail-qw0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i16si357166qco.3.2011.02.05.06.15.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.41; Received: by qwa26 with SMTP id 26so2423905qwa.14 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.211.206 with SMTP id gp14mr11022113qcb.289.1296915315778; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 06:15:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.107.13 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Feb 2011 06:15:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201102050750.43795.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201102050750.43795.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:15:15 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "Here" From: Remo Dentato To: "lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: rdentato@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rdentato@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rdentato@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 810 On Saturday, February 5, 2011, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 05 February 2011 07:15:16 Alex Rozenshteyn wrote: >> Is it reasonable to imply "here" with {zvati}? =A0e.g. {mi zvati} for "I= 'm >> here". =A0Is it much better to use {bu'u} somehow? > > It can be implicit, but to be explicit I'd say "mi zvati ti". "mi bu'u zv= ati" > means "I am where I am" I would say {bu'uku mi zvati} for "Here I am!" remod --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.