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On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Didn't catch that because it's a weird construction.
>
> What is the actual meaning of {mi broda je brode} and how does it differ
> from {mi broda gi'e brode}? Obviously it has to have a different meaning
> because of place structure defaults and tanru-ness, but what is this I don't
> even ^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w
>

  "mi broda je broda" means that I am member of those things that are both
"broda" and "brode".  Of it course that is also true iff "mi broda gi'e
brode" - "I am broda" and "I am brode".  The first construction basically
defines a set of things that is the intersection of two sets, and then
asserts my place in that intersection, whereas the second construction
asserts my membership in the two sets independently, and says that I am in
both.

   Clearer?
      --gejyspa

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at=
 6:23 PM, Lindar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@yaho=
o.com">lindarthebard@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Didn&#39;t catch that because it&#39;s a weird construction.<div><br></div>=
<div>What is the actual meaning of {mi broda je brode} and how does it diff=
er from {mi broda gi&#39;e brode}? Obviously it has to have a different mea=
ning because of place structure defaults and tanru-ness, but what is this I=
 don&#39;t even ^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w^w<br>
</div></blockquote><div><br>=A0 &quot;mi broda je broda&quot; means that I =
am member of those things that are both &quot;broda&quot; and &quot;brode&q=
uot;.=A0 Of it course that is also true iff &quot;mi broda gi&#39;e brode&q=
uot; - &quot;I am broda&quot; and &quot;I am brode&quot;.=A0 The first cons=
truction basically defines a set of things that is the intersection of two =
sets, and then asserts my place in that intersection, whereas the second co=
nstruction asserts my membership in the two sets independently, and says th=
at I am in both.<br>
<br>=A0=A0 Clearer?<br>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 --gejyspa<br><br></div></div></div>

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