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So if that doesn't work, what is the current definition (or is there one) o=
f
{lo se go'o .i gerku je zdani}?

2011/2/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Michael Turniansky
> <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   For example, could we define the x2 of "broda JA brode" to be the x2 =
of
> > both independently i.e. "x1 broda JA brode x2" (or "x1 x2 broda JA
> > brode") -> "x1 broda GIhA brode vau x2" (this certainly seems to be the
> way
> > that jbofi'e understands it. )?
>
> The problem appears when broda and brode don't have parallel place
> structures. Does "blanu je zdani" make sense? Is "ta blanu je zdani
> mi" the same as "ta blanu mi .ije ta zdani mi"? Is "ta melbi je nixli
> li so" the same as "ta melbi li so .ije ta nixli li so"? ("blanu je
> zdani" and "melbi je nixli" are examples in CLL, but only the x1 is
> considered.)
>
> > That would lead to interesting things like:
> > mi bajra jo farlu lo bisli po'o ("I am (runner-iff-faller) only on ice"
> > -> Ice is the only surface I fall on when I'm running on that surface,
> and
> > I fall on the ice when I'm running on ice.
>
> "mi bajra jo farlu lo bisli lo tuple"?
>
> And even if one could contemplate falling from one's legs, I can't
> imagine merging the gait with the gravity well (but I have no idea how
> to specify either).
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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So if that doesn&#39;t work, what is the current definition (or is there on=
e) of {lo se go&#39;o .i gerku je zdani}?<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
>2011/2/18 Jorge Llamb=EDas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllamb=
ias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1=
1:18 AM, Michael Turniansky<br>
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; =A0 For example, could we define the x2 of &quot;broda JA brode&quot; =
to be the x2 of<br>
&gt; both independently i.e. &quot;x1 broda JA brode x2&quot; (or &quot;x1 =
x2 broda JA<br>
&gt; brode&quot;)=A0-&gt; &quot;x1 broda=A0GIhA brode vau x2&quot;=A0(this =
certainly seems to be the way<br>
&gt; that jbofi&#39;e understands it.=A0)?<br>
<br>
</div>The problem appears when broda and brode don&#39;t have parallel plac=
e<br>
structures. Does &quot;blanu je zdani&quot; make sense? Is &quot;ta blanu j=
e zdani<br>
mi&quot; the same as &quot;ta blanu mi .ije ta zdani mi&quot;? Is &quot;ta =
melbi je nixli<br>
li so&quot; the same as &quot;ta melbi li so .ije ta nixli li so&quot;? (&q=
uot;blanu je<br>
zdani&quot; and &quot;melbi je nixli&quot; are examples in CLL, but only th=
e x1 is<br>
considered.)<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; That would lead to interesting things like:<br>
&gt; mi bajra jo farlu lo=A0bisli po&#39;o=A0(&quot;I am (runner-iff-faller=
) only on ice&quot;<br>
&gt; -&gt;=A0Ice is the only surface I fall on when I&#39;m running on that=
 surface, and<br>
&gt; I=A0fall on the ice when I&#39;m running on ice.<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;mi bajra jo farlu lo bisli lo tuple&quot;?<br>
<br>
And even if one could contemplate falling from one&#39;s legs, I can&#39;t<=
br>
imagine merging the gait with the gravity well (but I have no idea how<br>
to specify either).<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes<br>
<br>
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