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I'm unsatisfied with the current translation of "agnostic" as "god-doubter"

While that works in common usage, a more precise definition (at least as it
is used in certain circles in which I discuss) would be "one who believes in
the unknowability of the existence of a god"

so I tried to come up with a lujvo:

krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti fa lo cevni -> {ko'a}
believes that it is impossible to know that god exists. (djuno asks for a
{du'u}, although {jei} may be more appropriate)
fi lo cevni cu krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti -> {ko'a}
believes about god that it is impossible to know that {zo'e} exists
cevni krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti -> {ko'a} god type-of
believes that it is impossible to know that {zo'e} exists
cevni krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo zasti djuno -> {ko'a} god type-of believes
that it is impossible to exist type-of know
cevni krici lo du'u zasti djuno tolcu'i -> {ko'a} god type-of believes that
(exist type-of know) type-of impossible

But I get stuck there.  Am I going about this the right way?

Is the next progression

zasti djuno tolcu'i cevni bo krici = zasti djuno tolcu'i ke cevni krici

?

I'd appreciate any advice.

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I&#39;m unsatisfied with the current translation of &quot;agnostic&quot; as=
 &quot;god-doubter&quot;<br><br>While that works in common usage, a more pr=
ecise definition (at least as it is used in certain circles in which I disc=
uss) would be &quot;one who believes in the unknowability of the existence =
of a god&quot;<br>
<br>so I tried to come up with a lujvo:<br><br>krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;=
i lo djuno be lo du&#39;u zasti fa lo cevni -&gt; {ko&#39;a} believes that =
it is impossible to know that god exists. (djuno asks for a {du&#39;u}, alt=
hough {jei} may be more appropriate)<br>
fi lo cevni cu krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;i lo djuno be lo du&#39;u zasti =
-&gt; {ko&#39;a} believes about god that it is impossible to know that {zo&=
#39;e} exists<br>cevni krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;i lo djuno be lo du&#39;=
u zasti -&gt; {ko&#39;a} god type-of believes that it is impossible to know=
 that {zo&#39;e} exists<br>
cevni krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;i lo zasti djuno -&gt; {ko&#39;a} god typ=
e-of believes that it is impossible to exist type-of know<br>cevni krici lo=
 du&#39;u zasti djuno tolcu&#39;i -&gt; {ko&#39;a} god type-of believes tha=
t (exist type-of know) type-of impossible<br clear=3D"all">
<br>But I get stuck there.=A0 Am I going about this the right way?<br><br>I=
s the next progression<br><br>zasti djuno tolcu&#39;i cevni bo krici =3D za=
sti djuno tolcu&#39;i ke cevni krici<br><br>?<br><br>I&#39;d appreciate any=
 advice.<br>
<br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R</div></div><b=
r>

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