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cevni zasti tolcu'i djuno krici = cevza'iju'okri

On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm unsatisfied with the current translation of "agnostic" as "god-doubter"
>
> While that works in common usage, a more precise definition (at least as it
> is used in certain circles in which I discuss) would be "one who believes in
> the unknowability of the existence of a god"
>
> so I tried to come up with a lujvo:
>
> krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti fa lo cevni -> {ko'a}
> believes that it is impossible to know that god exists. (djuno asks for a
> {du'u}, although {jei} may be more appropriate)
> fi lo cevni cu krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti -> {ko'a}
> believes about god that it is impossible to know that {zo'e} exists
> cevni krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo djuno be lo du'u zasti -> {ko'a} god type-of
> believes that it is impossible to know that {zo'e} exists
> cevni krici lo du'u tolcu'i lo zasti djuno -> {ko'a} god type-of believes
> that it is impossible to exist type-of know
> cevni krici lo du'u zasti djuno tolcu'i -> {ko'a} god type-of believes that
> (exist type-of know) type-of impossible
>
> But I get stuck there.  Am I going about this the right way?
>
> Is the next progression
>
> zasti djuno tolcu'i cevni bo krici = zasti djuno tolcu'i ke cevni krici
>
> ?
>
> I'd appreciate any advice.
>
> --
>           Alex R
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cevni zasti tolcu&#39;i djuno krici =3D cevza&#39;iju&#39;okri<br><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rpglover64@gmail.com">rpglover64@gmail=
.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I&#39;m unsatisfi=
ed with the current translation of &quot;agnostic&quot; as &quot;god-doubte=
r&quot;<br>
<br>While that works in common usage, a more precise definition (at least a=
s it is used in certain circles in which I discuss) would be &quot;one who =
believes in the unknowability of the existence of a god&quot;<br>
<br>so I tried to come up with a lujvo:<br><br>krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;=
i lo djuno be lo du&#39;u zasti fa lo cevni -&gt; {ko&#39;a} believes that =
it is impossible to know that god exists. (djuno asks for a {du&#39;u}, alt=
hough {jei} may be more appropriate)<br>

fi lo cevni cu krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;i lo djuno be lo du&#39;u zasti =
-&gt; {ko&#39;a} believes about god that it is impossible to know that {zo&=
#39;e} exists<br>cevni krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;i lo djuno be lo du&#39;=
u zasti -&gt; {ko&#39;a} god type-of believes that it is impossible to know=
 that {zo&#39;e} exists<br>

cevni krici lo du&#39;u tolcu&#39;i lo zasti djuno -&gt; {ko&#39;a} god typ=
e-of believes that it is impossible to exist type-of know<br>cevni krici lo=
 du&#39;u zasti djuno tolcu&#39;i -&gt; {ko&#39;a} god type-of believes tha=
t (exist type-of know) type-of impossible<br clear=3D"all">

<br>But I get stuck there.=A0 Am I going about this the right way?<br><br>I=
s the next progression<br><br>zasti djuno tolcu&#39;i cevni bo krici =3D za=
sti djuno tolcu&#39;i ke cevni krici<br><br>?<br><br>I&#39;d appreciate any=
 advice.<br>

<br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R</div></div><b=
r><font color=3D"#888888">

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</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;=
e .aionys.<br><br>.i.a&#39;o.e&#39;e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa=
 bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am y=
our father. :D )<br>
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