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Well, I see no reason why one very precise sense of the word shouldn't be
expressible in lojban in a single word.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

> When one english word is as overloaded as "agnostic" seems to be, it makes
> me question if such a thing should be expressible in lojban with a single
> word.
>
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> In tanru yes, but not in a lujvo.The meaning of lujvo is NOT defined as
>> exactly the meaning of the tanru formed from the valsi of the component
>> rafsi.
>>
>> Especially with ready long lujvo, it is not only permissible, but
>> encouraged to leave out non-vital rafsi.
>>
>> Sent from my Android.
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2011 9:40 PM, "Ian Johnson" <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think they are, because that other thing, the thing I described, is a
>> relevant possibility in this discussion in general. Plus, {cevni zasti djuno
>> tolcu'i krici} and {cevni zasti tolcu'i djuno krici} yield lujvo of
>> essentially the same length--you don't need ke/ke'e or bo.
>>
>>
>>
>> mu'o mi'e .latros.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> > I forgot that part in the lujvo. Oops.
>>> >
>>> > Right, (((god existence)(impossible knowing))belief)....
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Well, I see no reason why one very precise sense of the word shouldn&#39;t =
be expressible in lojban in a single word.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Luke Bergen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:lukeabergen@gmail.com">lukeabergen@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">When one english =
word is as overloaded as &quot;agnostic&quot; seems to be, it makes me ques=
tion if such a thing should be=A0expressible=A0in lojban with a single word=
.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Jonathan J=
ones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><p>In tanru yes, =
but not in a lujvo.The meaning of lujvo is NOT defined as exactly the meani=
ng of the tanru formed from the valsi of the component rafsi.</p>



<p>Especially with ready long lujvo, it is not only permissible, but encour=
aged to leave out non-vital rafsi.</p>
<p>Sent from my Android.</p>
<p></p><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"im"><div>On Feb 19, 2011 9:4=
0 PM, &quot;Ian Johnson&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>I think the=
y are, because that other thing, the thing I described, is a relevant possi=
bility in this discussion in general. Plus, {cevni zasti djuno tolcu&#39;i =
krici} and {cevni zasti tolcu&#39;i djuno krici} yield lujvo of essentially=
 the same length--you don&#39;t need ke/ke&#39;e or bo.<p>



<font color=3D"#500050"><br><br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .latros.<br></font></p></=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im"><div><p><font color=
=3D"#500050">On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Jones &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:</font></p>



</div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt =
0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div =
class=3D"im"><p><font color=3D"#500050"></font></p><div><font color=3D"#500=
050">&gt;<br>
&gt; I forgot that part in the lujvo. Oops.<br>

&gt;<br></font></div></div><font color=3D"#500050">&gt; Right, (((god exist=
ence)(impossible knowing))belief)....</font><p></p>
<div><div></div><div>

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