Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PrBoH-0001fW-Un; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:07:04 -0800 Received: by fxm10 with SMTP id 10sf72529fxm.16 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=uFAJThTgYapceGIAOWWM+xDOvBrOHo7Zgorbxu4tYHg=; b=VtjTe+6rSBK40jfNKpxK8o4Vvhu+xhn/GG3uVInYao07H0vgJFuJqcClNgQ4SeQJp8 RTm1ejtwjzwaxEqplf5teAfDSqQi55csWYOBdfORb09feImRflItoFlTHEZPFT1P//GE gGMwcfvtODZf8vJgCs0olz4AkRpjL6SEWEfLc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=iDG5nMqp/igPobEsSmP6w74zQPWNJoeGQyWT3+DG2Wnl10uLpdKmNpdJ0mehWcdATH pScgrztOZxGgoaR02EQ6ICCZF7JMUDwEUv3xdkohSXAXXRGPNgoyATvXjSuoUALH2igd sHirALDLdxB8BX7PXtBnBgmHaMmhhvw/j4GlI= Received: by 10.223.75.193 with SMTP id z1mr31627faj.46.1298218003264; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.7.80 with SMTP id c16ls711250fac.3.p; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.136 with SMTP id u8mr45757faj.13.1298218002460; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.74.136 with SMTP id u8mr45756faj.13.1298218002430; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k4si419101fax.14.2011.02.20.08.06.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.44; Received: by bwz13 with SMTP id 13so1831333bwz.31 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.70.142 with SMTP id d14mr430820bkj.13.1298218002025; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.204.75.194 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 08:06:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201102171403.40004.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201102171622.02738.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:06:41 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about {roda} From: Oleksii Melnyk To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lamelnyk@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lamelnyk@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lamelnyk@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b022da0d50049cb8eea7 Content-Length: 2216 --001636c5b022da0d50049cb8eea7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2011/2/20 Remo Dentato > The easiest, quick&dirty solution that come to my mind is to mandate that > an unboud {di} is NOT context dependent while {da} and {de} might be context > dependent. > The easiest solution is: let the context determine it; when the context is formal logic or some other math, known to be able to talk about everything at once, assume it to be universal. -- mi'e lex mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --001636c5b022da0d50049cb8eea7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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The easiest, quick&dirty solution that = come to my mind is to mandate that an unboud {di} is NOT context dependent = while {da} and {de} might be context dependent.

The easiest solution is:

let the context determine it; whe= n the context is formal logic or some other math, known to be able to talk = about everything at once, assume it to be universal.

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