Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PrD9r-0007FP-3G; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:23 -0800 Received: by yia27 with SMTP id 27sf4784893yia.16 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=nAjzGIgBsguyPOMgK26y7kRTeI/6eMvxR364jIFzU4s=; b=c6cMK2cE91mRoUacqkgun4/gWC3sHlsCRRRNjSv69YZAl/gWeplOzeUzKi0QpiwEf2 5R4Hw+D/NUZlXZk6d72bIKDqNK8W/6Ley+mtaYG4EwLn3FmpzXRsnfhwFKIuKlBIm25s bihk+I8bNZioJp8bCCWZ75bPxaOdyC+OnYkWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Lx6ZlLHqy97oKN0xqOsysl+nfkjyFccPH720tG3Alhgqy+U9e+2nBnMMEnzY8ye/MX PDSHR/LlxtX18QsJr2jG8fH20AkLtHdUoWH0xBuVh5+SijHYUdRC8LDtSjMjW6pDG31v pwehLlFrcHY5j5Rk6quqNY3dCLR6uBgIUGqy4= Received: by 10.90.117.15 with SMTP id p15mr57761agc.21.1298223185058; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:05 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.76.165 with SMTP id c37ls4219258ibk.3.p; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.208.4 with SMTP id ga4mr135233ibb.11.1298223184328; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.208.4 with SMTP id ga4mr135232ibb.11.1298223184266; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-iy0-f179.google.com (mail-iy0-f179.google.com [209.85.210.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m30si972833ibu.6.2011.02.20.09.33.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.210.179; Received: by iye19 with SMTP id 19so5666404iye.24 for ; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.37.76 with SMTP id w12mr439838ibd.148.1298223184098; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:33:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.199.141 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:32:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <27724557.358.1298222027773.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm18> References: <27724557.358.1298222027773.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prcm18> From: Luke Bergen Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:32:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Question about {roda} To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325575896ba35c2049cba232e Content-Length: 3498 --000325575896ba35c2049cba232e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's what I'm hearing as well lindar. Like {roda} can be understood to be {roda poi co'e}. When talking about logic I guess that {co'e} is something like {broda ja na broda} so as to include the strong version of EVERYTHING. On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Lindar wrote: > That seems to be a safe restriction in a non-gluteal interpretation, but > saying that {roda} can have implicit semantic restrictions based on context > may not be safe. Does that mean that every instance of {roda} has an > implicit {poi} clause? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Lindar <lindarthebard= @yahoo.com> wrote:
That seems to be a safe restriction in a non-gluteal interpretation, but sa= ying that {roda} can have implicit semantic restrictions based on context m= ay not be safe. Does that mean that every instance of {roda} has an implici= t {poi} clause?

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