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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] lujvo making help request Message-ID: <20110220175124.GA27608@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.214.175 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1509 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:31:22AM -0500, Luke Bergen wrote: > In all honesty I hope to see more lujvo like this. It's about time that > lojban started forging ahead with original words and ideas and stop > worrying solely about having a word for every nuance of every english idea > that we can come up with. And don't take this one personally .arpis., I've > been harping on this one for a while. I appreciated the idea of creating original words in the context of the conversation about the word "cfisisku" (on the jbovlaste mailing list), I think this word, "nikyge'u", is a poor example of this practice. There isn't anything essential to the idea of a story containing exaggeration in that word. It is no different than "nickle cat" or "gold dog." What metric do I use to determine whether this word is a better definition than any alternate choice? The definition is arbitrary. This word is random; another randomly selected lujvo could be equally plausible. I think that new words should have a minimum level of plausibility such that a comparison to other choices can be made. -Alan -- .i ko djuno fi le do sevzi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.