O= n Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrot= e:

True, I'm jus= t saying that caution is in order. =A0Sometimes english words are loaded wi= th tons of meaning from connotation. =A0Sometimes it's best to make the= lujvo a reasonable length and then just define it however you want.

For example, "email" could be described as {lerfu = poi benji ke'a fu lo kibro}. =A0But rather than making a lujvo like {ki= bybejlerfu} we say screw it, just call it {samymri} and define it how you p= lease.

Remember, the rafsi chosen for a lujvo are supposed to = provide a decent hint at what the definition is, but at the end of the day,= the only thing that matters is the definition.

Case in point: nikyge'u

In all honesty I hope = to see more lujvo like this. =A0It's about time that lojban started for= ging ahead with original words and ideas and stop worrying solely about hav= ing a word for every nuance of every english idea that we can come up with.= =A0And don't take this one personally .arpis., I've been harping o= n this one for a while.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 10:17 AM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I see no reason why one very precise sense of the word shouldn't = be expressible in lojban in a single word.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Luke Bergen <l= ukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:

When one english = word is as overloaded as "agnostic" seems to be, it makes me ques= tion if such a thing should be=A0expressible=A0in lojban with a single word= .

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

In tanru yes, = but not in a lujvo.The meaning of lujvo is NOT defined as exactly the meani= ng of the tanru formed from the valsi of the component rafsi.

Especially with ready long lujvo, it is not only permissible, but encour= aged to leave out non-vital rafsi.

Sent from my Android.

On Feb 19, 2011 9:40 PM, "I= an Johnson" <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

I think they are, becaus= e that other thing, the thing I described, is a relevant possibility in thi= s discussion in general. Plus, {cevni zasti djuno tolcu'i krici} and {c= evni zasti tolcu'i djuno krici} yield lujvo of essentially the same len= gth--you don't need ke/ke'e or bo.

mu'o mi'e .latros.
O= n Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

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> I forgot that part in the lujvo. Oops.
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