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On Feb 21, 2011 8:14pm, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
> My only concern is that if {roda} has an implicite {poi co'e} then I'm  
> not sure what you could put in for that {co'e} that gets you back to the  
> strong EVERYTHING that logicians want.

> lojban makes it very easy to narrow a concepts meaning (with tanru, with  
> poi/noi, with further bridi, etc...), but there are very few ways (none  
> that my fever-addled brain can think of at the moment anyway) that expand  
> a concepts meaning. So if we take something as widely expanded as {ro}  
> and say "oh, but it's not really universal all the time" then what CAN  
> you say that is consistently universal?

I (sort of) understand your point, Luke. Only, I can't imagine a situation  
when you need to be "universal" and that fact is not obvious by the context.

Could you give an example where {roda broda} can be impacted by the fact  
that one may implicitly restrict the {da} binding?

remo

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