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Actually, this raises an interesting question:
{ko'a broda .ijonai ko'a broda no da}
is accepted. What about:
{ko'a broda .ijonai ko'a broda fi'o brode no da}
Ordinally {fi'o brode ko'e} would mean "where ko'e brode (in general, not
specific to this sentence), which is somehow related to the sentence". Does
this mean that {... fi'o brode no da} asserts {no da brode} and that this
fact is somehow related to the sentence?

If so, {TAG zi'o} and {TAG no da} become very, very different things.

mu'o mi'e .latros.


On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:16 PM, spermwhale.warrior <
guerrier.cachalot@gmail.com> wrote:

> First, {bau} means "in langage", second, what you want is "bai".
> And third, you Alex are wrong, because {bu'a bai zi'o} simply means
> {bu'a} : it deletes this place from the predicate.
> To say that broda or whatsoever happens without compulsion, you must
> say "broda bai noda", because if you don't,
> {zo'e} will always remplace it, something that does not precise
> anything.
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Actually, this raises an interesting question:<br>{ko&#39;a broda .ijonai k=
o&#39;a broda no da}<br>is accepted. What about:<br>{ko&#39;a broda .ijonai=
 ko&#39;a broda fi&#39;o brode no da}<br>Ordinally {fi&#39;o brode ko&#39;e=
} would mean &quot;where ko&#39;e brode (in general, not specific to this s=
entence), which is somehow related to the sentence&quot;. Does this mean th=
at {... fi&#39;o brode no da} asserts {no da brode} and that this fact is s=
omehow related to the sentence?<br>
<br>If so, {TAG zi&#39;o} and {TAG no da} become very, very different thing=
s.<br><br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .latros.<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 4:16 PM, spermwhale.warrior <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:guerrier.cachalot@gmail.com">guerrier.cachalot@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">First, {bau} mean=
s &quot;in langage&quot;, second, what you want is &quot;bai&quot;.<br>
And third, you Alex are wrong, because {bu&#39;a bai zi&#39;o} simply means=
<br>
{bu&#39;a} : it deletes this place from the predicate.<br>
To say that broda or whatsoever happens without compulsion, you must<br>
say &quot;broda bai noda&quot;, because if you don&#39;t,<br>
{zo&#39;e} will always remplace it, something that does not precise<br>
anything.<br>
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