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Fairly sure he meant just {ro le broda}; all the brodas that I have in mind.
Anything with {da} interacting with {le} doesn't really do the sort of thing
we're talking about in this thread.

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Wednesday 23 February 2011 16:15:01 xaujbes cindustus wrote:
> > Could you say {.i ro le da broda}? Everything for a given value of
> > everything? Or have I overlooked something and/or does the definition of
> da
> > preclude being used with an article?
>
> "ro le da broda" means "all of da's brodas" (e.g. "ro lo da patxu cu staku"
> means "all of someone's pots are ceramic"). I'm not sure what you meant.
>
> Pierre
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Fairly sure he meant just {ro le broda}; all the brodas that I have in mind=
. Anything with {da} interacting with {le} doesn&#39;t really do the sort o=
f thing we&#39;re talking about in this thread.<br><br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .l=
atros.<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Pierre Abb=
at <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.op=
tus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddi=
ng-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Wednesday 23 February 2011 16:15:01 xaujbes cindustus =
wrote:<br>
&gt; Could you say {.i ro le da broda}? Everything for a given value of<br>
&gt; everything? Or have I overlooked something and/or does the definition =
of da<br>
&gt; preclude being used with an article?<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;ro le da broda&quot; means &quot;all of da&#39;s brodas&quot; (=
e.g. &quot;ro lo da patxu cu staku&quot;<br>
means &quot;all of someone&#39;s pots are ceramic&quot;). I&#39;m not sure =
what you meant.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
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