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That's inconsistent with what you said earlier. That is, if {no da} *really*
works the same between both cases, then {lo du'u ko'a broda no da cu nibli
lo du'u ko'a na broda} and {lo du'u ko'a broda broda TAG no da cu nibli lo
du'u ko'a na broda} must both be true. I know the former is true; you said
the latter is false.

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Thursday 24 February 2011 10:13:11 Ian Johnson wrote:
> > That seems like a pretty significant irregularity to me; if {no da} fills
> a
> > predicate place, it is as if {na} were put in, but if {no da} fills a TAG
> > place, it isn't. Or is it that {broda TAG} is a new predicate which is
> > false when {broda TAG no da} is true even though {broda} itself may be
> > true?
>
> "noda" works the same way whether it's in a numbered place or a tagged
> place.
> Prepositions (including tense markers) can be negated, though, whereas FA
> cannot.
>
> Pierre
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That&#39;s inconsistent with what you said earlier. That is, if {no da} *re=
ally* works the same between both cases, then {lo du&#39;u ko&#39;a broda n=
o da cu nibli lo du&#39;u ko&#39;a na broda} and {lo du&#39;u ko&#39;a brod=
a broda TAG no da cu nibli lo du&#39;u ko&#39;a na broda} must both be true=
. I know the former is true; you said the latter is false.<br>
<br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .latros.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Fe=
b 24, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optus.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1=
px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Thursday 24 February 2011 10:13:11 Ian Johnson wrote:<=
br>
&gt; That seems like a pretty significant irregularity to me; if {no da} fi=
lls a<br>
&gt; predicate place, it is as if {na} were put in, but if {no da} fills a =
TAG<br>
&gt; place, it isn&#39;t. Or is it that {broda TAG} is a new predicate whic=
h is<br>
&gt; false when {broda TAG no da} is true even though {broda} itself may be=
<br>
&gt; true?<br>
<br>
</div>&quot;noda&quot; works the same way whether it&#39;s in a numbered pl=
ace or a tagged place.<br>
Prepositions (including tense markers) can be negated, though, whereas FA<b=
r>
cannot.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
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