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It just feels like option three has the power to very easily make malgli.
Bob:  it's wrong, it's all wrong.
Dan:  what's wrong?
Bob:  everything.

This ambiguous little piece of conversation can easily be translated to
lojban with option 3 roda.
Bob:  toldrani .i roda toldrani
Dan:  .i ma toldrani
Bob:  roda go'i

Now, is the above "ambiguous" or "vague"
On Feb 25, 2011 12:22 PM, <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:
> On , Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but I'm with Lindar here.
> Hi Michael , I know how painful is to be in agreement with Lindar, it
> happens to me too, sometimes :) ({zo'o})
>
>> If you want to say "I see two animals ...
> I agree, I could say it differently and I probably would if I needed. The
> point is how to read the sentence {roda plisa} if {da} has not been
> previously bound.
>
> Since {roda} is grammatical, we have to decide what is the interpretation
> in case {da} it's not bound.
>
> I see three choices:
>
> 1. No interpretation (ie it's nonsensical)
> 2. It means EVERYTHING (in some metaphysical sense)
> 3. Can be interpreted depending on the context
>
> My vote is in favour of option 3. The second choice for me would be option

> 1. If the majority would vote for option 2 I will mumble in the dark and
> never, ever use an unbound {da}
>
> remod
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<p>It just feels like option three has the power to very easily make malgli=
.=A0 <br>
Bob:=A0 it&#39;s wrong, it&#39;s all wrong.<br>
Dan:=A0 what&#39;s wrong?<br>
Bob:=A0 everything.</p>
<p>This ambiguous little piece of conversation can easily be translated to =
lojban with option 3 roda.<br>
Bob:=A0 toldrani .i roda toldrani<br>
Dan:=A0 .i ma toldrani<br>
Bob:=A0 roda go&#39;i</p>
<p>Now, is the above &quot;ambiguous&quot; or &quot;vague&quot;</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Feb 25, 2011 12:22 PM,  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:rdentato@gmail.com">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attributi=
on">&gt; On , Michael Turniansky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.co=
m">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; I&#39;m sorry, but I&#39;m with Lindar here.<br>&gt; Hi Michael , =
I know how painful is to be in agreement with Lindar, it  <br>&gt; happens =
to me too, sometimes :) ({zo&#39;o})<br>&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; If you want to sa=
y &quot;I see two animals ...<br>
&gt; I agree, I could say it differently and I probably would if I needed. =
The  <br>&gt; point is how to read the sentence {roda plisa} if {da} has no=
t been  <br>&gt; previously bound.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Since {roda} is grammat=
ical, we have to decide what is the interpretation  <br>
&gt; in case {da} it&#39;s not bound.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I see three choices:=
<br>&gt; <br>&gt; 1. No interpretation (ie it&#39;s nonsensical)<br>&gt; 2.=
 It means EVERYTHING (in some metaphysical sense)<br>&gt; 3. Can be interpr=
eted depending on the context<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; My vote is in favour of option 3. The second choice for me wo=
uld be option  <br>&gt; 1. If the majority would vote for option 2 I will m=
umble in the dark and  <br>&gt; never, ever use an unbound {da}<br>&gt; <br=
>
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