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Hokkaido lies in the north of
Japan.<http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/321285>

(I'm not quite clear how one lojbanizes names, so I'll just use {la
xokaidos} until someone corrects me).

{la xokaidos berti lo gugdejupu} is wrong; it says that if one starts at the
northernmost point of Japan, one can move northward and get to Hokkaido.
my initial idea was
{la xokaidos berti fi lo gugdejupu}, but I'm not sure the third place of
{berti} applies like this; I take this to mean that Hokkaido is north of
something in Japan's reference frame, but "Japan's reference frame" doesn't
make much sense in the context of "north"
{la xokaidos berti ne'i lo gugdejupu} is another thought, but it seems not
quite right.

Any advice, doi jbocre?

-- 
mu'o mi'e .arpis.

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e clear how one lojbanizes names, so I&#39;ll just use {la xokaidos} until =
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>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .arpis.<br><br>

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