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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Words for Politics and Economics To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <9b728267-66e5-4514-8a4c-861c0ca64c93@u12g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 98.139.52.204 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com X-Google-Group-Id: 94518172 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 4632 >=20 > So I checked some of the dictionaries floating about and I wasn't able > to find "words" to use in political discourse.=A0 I made a list of > several words I'd like to know the Lojban equivalents for, including > some basic English nouns and words used to refer to people of > different political leanings: Here=A0is=A0a=A0random selection=A0from jbovlaste.=A0 Many others will be t= here too. Take a look! totus >=20 > Politics trucu'u=20 http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/trucu%27u > Economics >=20 > Democrat > Republican > Libertarian/libertarianism > Liberal vricykricru http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/vricykricru?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2 > Conservative dzejdasra http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/dzejdasra > Socialist > Statist >=20 > Liberty > Freedom > Slavery >=20 > Property > Rights zi'evja http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/zi%27ejva > Rights (natural rights) rarzi'ejva http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/rarzi%27ejva?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2 > Rights (guaranteed rights) > tax/taxation >=20 > democracy ka'irtrusi'o http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/ka%27irtrusi%27o > republicanism > capitalism sivypo'eci'e http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/sivypo%27eci%27e > communism > socialism fairpaltrusi'o http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/fairpaltrusi%27o > fascism tsarainaitrusi'o http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/tsarainaitrusi%27o?bg=3D1;langidarg=3D2 > dictatorship > monarchy > anarchy >=20 > minarchism > anarcho-capitalism >=20 > union (i.e. workers' union or teachers' union) >=20 > objectivism (pre-Ayn Rand variety) > Objectivism (Ayn Rand variety) > Tribalism >=20 > currency > fiat-currency > commodity > stock posfai http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/posfai > stock market > bond > stock broker > recession > depression (economic variety) > boom-bust cycle > inflation > deflation > bubble (economic variety) > embargo > tariff > sanction >=20 > corruption > monopoly > military > military-industrial complex > industry > business > corporation kagni http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/kagni > population > citizen flaselgu'e http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/flaselgu%27e > migrant > immigrant > nation/country/state > nationalism natpamtrusi'o http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/natpamtrusi%27o > patriotism > spy > treason/traitor > border > war > civil l war > revolution/revolt > terrorism > trade > enemy > ally > navy > army > air force > soldier >=20 > propaganda > subterfuge >=20 > president gugja'a http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/gugja%27a > senator > representative > congressman > parliament > general > king/queen > dictator > emperor/empress > sovereign > chieftain > prime e minister truralju http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/truralju > wanker >=20 > constitution > bill > act > amendment >=20 > political party > partisanship >=20 > vote > pluralism > oligarchy > bureaucrat/bureaucratic/bureaucracy > rule > law > regulation > reform > repeal >=20 >=20 > Alright, , I tried to come up with everything I could that wasn't too > far away from the subject of politics and economics.=A0 I thought of > adding things in like nazi-ism or maoism, but they seemed to be too > specific for this beginning list.=A0 I'm sure there's more, so feel free > to add in translations for words you think of on your own that fit the > topic. >=20 > I know talking about politics on a forum is just asking for trouble, > so please don't get into any arguments about what's the best political > philosophy or anything like that if you can avoid it.=A0 If you have a > translation for one of the words up above, you might also break it > down to show why the word is what it is, if applicable, but it isn't > necessary. >=20 > Politics and language are my two great loves, so it would be nice to > have the words for my favorite subjects to talk about while learning > Lojban, hence the purpose of this thread.=A0 Have fun! >=20 > --=20 > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups= =20 >"Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=20 >lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at=20 >http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >=20 >=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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