Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pxfhr-0006VG-IB; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:15:15 -0800 Received: by gyd10 with SMTP id 10sf1390454gyd.16 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:15:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip :references:user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IcEVNRCpqskFseZq3YpxUz6tHx+uu8wzEP89VNTxWE4=; b=WD2zdmgKTkPZdxSdIoqsn4kX18mmO5pB5+yGftMNSe0fqw+OS6tJ5vXExL4df+SuWr /NcrkMXpQXo7hxj+Y5H1GmE1XIZsTIUs00RSUsHnvkrzeYx2WADT8o48IViHHuPzlcZ1 9YVoZDsAvhZMSo0X+6stb40wzA8yCFmgVb0Wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:in-reply-to:x-ip:references :user-agent:x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=aq7AlzKwUBljzsuIvPvEH2mrh0UeVYE2ylumZO4qG0W+wotWT3/tMp8kYt0CMJ9uFg rvWrUJQ/yQmhkvRhf0o0FFr7Su9UW9m6E6LVn1boQQRNipkCoLBMVnGB2fbADxYZZwm8 tsywX56VqEsgQXdOCqF4ajyNQvtjfF0J8vg14= Received: by 10.150.207.2 with SMTP id e2mr136976ybg.24.1299762893590; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:14:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.150.173.10 with SMTP id v10ls1157612ybe.0.p; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:14:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.204.11 with SMTP id b11mr409856ybg.34.1299762892966; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 05:14:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.212.1 with SMTP id k1mr495706ang.60.1299758011485; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by o14g2000prb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:53:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 03:53:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-IP: 99.164.161.225 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/9.0.597.107 Safari/534.13,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: Words for Politics and Economics From: Greendogo To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: pcm1123@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 4517 So far there have been quite a few contributions in the thread, as you should be able to see above. But if you're asking me personally what I've come up with, I will refrain from coming up with anything, as I am a lowly beginner. The words provided above by more experienced Lojbanists are pretty satisfying already, as well as the discourse on how best to describe political systems and related fields. On Mar 2, 11:05=A0pm, MorphemeAddict wrote: > What words have you come up with so far? > > stevo > > =A0On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Greendogo wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> So I checked some of the dictionaries floating about and I wasn't able > >> to find "words" to use in political discourse. =A0I made a list of > >> several words I'd like to know the Lojban equivalents for, including > >> some basic English nouns and words used to refer to people of > >> different political leanings: > > >> Politics > >> Economics > > >> Democrat > >> Republican > >> Libertarian/libertarianism > >> Liberal > >> Conservative > >> Socialist > >> Statist > > >> Liberty > >> Freedom > >> Slavery > > >> Property > >> Rights (natural rights) > >> Rights (guaranteed rights) > >> tax/taxation > > >> democracy > >> republicanism > >> capitalism > >> communism > >> socialism > >> fascism > >> dictatorship > >> monarchy > >> anarchy > > >> minarchism > >> anarcho-capitalism > > >> union (i.e. workers' union or teachers' union) > > >> objectivism (pre-Ayn Rand variety) > >> Objectivism (Ayn Rand variety) > >> Tribalism > > >> currency > >> fiat-currency > >> commodity > >> stock > >> stock market > >> bond > >> stock broker > >> recession > >> depression (economic variety) > >> boom-bust cycle > >> inflation > >> deflation > >> bubble (economic variety) > >> embargo > >> tariff > >> sanction > > >> corruption > >> monopoly > >> military > >> military-industrial complex > >> industry > >> business > >> corporation > >> population > >> citizen > >> migrant > >> immigrant > >> nation/country/state > >> nationalism > >> patriotism > >> spy > >> treason/traitor > >> border > >> war > >> civil war > >> revolution/revolt > >> terrorism > >> trade > >> enemy > >> ally > >> navy > >> army > >> air force > >> soldier > > >> propaganda > >> subterfuge > > >> president > >> senator > >> representative > >> congressman > >> parliament > >> general > >> king/queen > >> dictator > >> emperor/empress > >> sovereign > >> chieftain > >> prime minister > >> wanker > > >> constitution > >> bill > >> act > >> amendment > > >> political party > >> partisanship > > >> vote > >> pluralism > >> oligarchy > >> bureaucrat/bureaucratic/bureaucracy > >> rule > >> law > >> regulation > >> reform > >> repeal > > >> Alright, I tried to come up with everything I could that wasn't too > >> far away from the subject of politics and economics. =A0I thought of > >> adding things in like nazi-ism or maoism, but they seemed to be too > >> specific for this beginning list. =A0I'm sure there's more, so feel fr= ee > >> to add in translations for words you think of on your own that fit the > >> topic. > > >> I know talking about politics on a forum is just asking for trouble, > >> so please don't get into any arguments about what's the best political > >> philosophy or anything like that if you can avoid it. =A0If you have a > >> translation for one of the words up above, you might also break it > >> down to show why the word is what it is, if applicable, but it isn't > >> necessary. > > >> Politics and language are my two great loves, so it would be nice to > >> have the words for my favorite subjects to talk about while learning > >> Lojban, hence the purpose of this thread. =A0Have fun! > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro= ups > >> "Lojban Beginners" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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