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PIEKARSKI" Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Re: Words for Politics and Economics To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: totus@rogers.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 98.139.52.216 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of totus@rogers.com) smtp.mail=totus@rogers.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@rogers.com X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1135 >On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 09:17, A. PIEKARSKI=A0=A0wrote: > >For example, the most often-used lujvo=A0for communism has been {guntrusi'= o} based=20 > >on the idea (vaguely) of having=A0communes ruled by workers (and peasants)= . As a side note, I don't think Communism was ever defined as communes ruled = by=20 workers/peasants. I think it's defined as a classless society where workers= =20 control the means of production.--=20 _________That's why I added '(vaguely)'.=A0 Obviously, {guntrusi'o} misses = the=20 'classless society' part, but then do we want our lujvo to be in the Guines= s=20 Book of Records? By the way, Oren, can you translate the menu on the Chinese wiki home page,= =20 pleeeeeease? I've asked you twice :) totus --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. 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