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Why is {no'a ra'o} not silly?

mu'o mi'e .latros.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:

> On Thursday 03 March 2011 07:16:59 Michael Turniansky wrote:
> > "nei" refers to the current bridi.  "no'a" to the bridi immediately
> > enclosing this bridi.  "vo'a" refers to the outermost bridi (if you wish
> to
> > think of it this, way, as the one between two ".i"s)  So if I say "mi
> djuno
> > lo du'u do nelci lo nu la djein prami _____",
> > if I fill in the blank with "vo'a" it means "I know that you like Jane
> > loving me";
> > with "lo no'a", "I know that you like Jane loving you";
> > with "lo nei", "I know that you like Jane loving herself"
>
> The most general of these is "no'a", which can have a subscript indicating
> how
> many times one steps outside one bridi, and can be preceded by SE (itself
> subscriptable, which can be used if a selbri has more than five places),
> which swaps bridi places. So "mi djuno lo du'u do necli lo nu la djein
> prami
> lo se no'a xi no". Both "no'a" and "nei" can be followed by "ra'o",
> though "nei ra'o" is silly.
>
> Pierre
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Why is {no&#39;a ra&#39;o} not silly?<br><br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .latros.<br>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Pierre Abbat=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:phma@phma.optus.nu">phma@phma.optu=
s.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=3D"im"=
>On Thursday 03 March 2011 07:16:59 Michael Turniansky wrote:<br>
&gt; &quot;nei&quot; refers to the current bridi. =A0&quot;no&#39;a&quot; t=
o the bridi immediately<br>
&gt; enclosing this bridi. =A0&quot;vo&#39;a&quot; refers to the outermost =
bridi (if you wish to<br>
&gt; think of it this, way, as the one between two &quot;.i&quot;s) =A0So i=
f I say &quot;mi djuno<br>
&gt; lo du&#39;u do nelci lo nu la djein prami _____&quot;,<br>
&gt; if I fill in the blank with &quot;vo&#39;a&quot; it means &quot;I know=
 that you like Jane<br>
&gt; loving me&quot;;<br>
&gt; with &quot;lo no&#39;a&quot;, &quot;I know that you like Jane loving y=
ou&quot;;<br>
&gt; with &quot;lo nei&quot;, &quot;I know that you like Jane loving hersel=
f&quot;<br>
<br>
</div>The most general of these is &quot;no&#39;a&quot;, which can have a s=
ubscript indicating how<br>
many times one steps outside one bridi, and can be preceded by SE (itself<b=
r>
subscriptable, which can be used if a selbri has more than five places),<br=
>
which swaps bridi places. So &quot;mi djuno lo du&#39;u do necli lo nu la d=
jein prami<br>
lo se no&#39;a xi no&quot;. Both &quot;no&#39;a&quot; and &quot;nei&quot; c=
an be followed by &quot;ra&#39;o&quot;,<br>
though &quot;nei ra&#39;o&quot; is silly.<br>
<br>
Pierre<br>
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