Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ggY-0003Ur-8I; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:49 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf398063fxm.16 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=QeZQHFZ/UFaiZ0xTIaq8THG2RFTHaqzD2zztzPalM8A=; b=tr6GSwRmM9iqKoZKymqnM/4qinwLyhaHHSC/Ion4ZmkEUKsDSFSdmepkhZjPztbfNQ tteS9k2uh+zGZ9q0CmvT4uZ0NlzYMzS4Ki2hwlRffhamkQ07tsEaljQSmlKS9f8f4q/F khR006pz2K+46GM/YznwmYvUYpn5WuFHE73LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=BznrJSIhaJ4X3fIqF/uS0mGNZzC6Cov/fMBVl6NCQruRy+gXmwhW4Isbjt9FU/lfOF yma3SCBDmnnqFVhp+3p1eElsPpQuMwMvvh4lFKzI+jakk8gpj8bTJtfxf2tulrqHvKA1 mPmcJdo7BVKwHtYXQIKEueyNoopvEPIxM3JmY= Received: by 10.223.42.83 with SMTP id r19mr72014fae.4.1301434949051; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.32.68 with SMTP id b4ls33463fad.0.p; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.194 with SMTP id x2mr45184fal.4.1301434947909; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.194 with SMTP id x2mr45183fal.4.1301434947879; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com (mail-bw0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 20si556073fav.6.2011.03.29.14.42.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.41; Received: by mail-bw0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 17so538539bwz.28 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.83 with SMTP id b19mr311014bkk.126.1301434947635; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.104.5 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:42:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201103291146.31942.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:42:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] What do you say in response to a sneeze From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636499fbdc08efa049fa5ef8b Content-Length: 3952 --001636499fbdc08efa049fa5ef8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Oren wrote: > In Chinese, you don't say anything in response to a sneeze. > > bi'u > > Before I really knew what 'bless you' and 'gesundheit' were really > expressing (that i'm wishing they were healthier), I just thought it was a > polite way of acknowledging a sneeze occured. Maybe one translation could be > { senci } (Sneeze). > > bi'unai > > If a Chinese person hears { ko kanro }, I imagine they'd call malglico (or > rather, malropno) foul. > I'm calling B.S. on that. Just because one culture doesn't have a practice doesn't make that practice mabla. > One similar situation might be for the english expression "Brrr," for which > (likewise) there is no Chinese equivalent. One translation of 'brr' into > lojban that might make sense to a Chinese speaker is { lenku } (Cold). > Maybe, except that "Brrr...." isn't a bridi, it's an attitudinal. (Or at least, the English equivalent.) -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --001636499fbdc08efa049fa5ef8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Oren <get.oren@gmail.com> wrote:
In Chinese, you don't say anything in response to a sn= eeze.

bi'u

Before I really = knew what 'bless you' and 'gesundheit' were really expressi= ng (that i'm wishing they were healthier), I just thought it was a poli= te way of acknowledging a sneeze occured. Maybe one translation could be { = senci } (Sneeze).

bi'unai

If a Chinese perso= n hears { ko kanro }, I imagine they'd call malglico (or rather, malrop= no) foul.

I'm calling B.S. on that. Ju= st because one culture doesn't have a practice doesn't make that pr= actice mabla.
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One similar situation might be for the english exp= ression "Brrr," for which (likewise) there is no Chinese equivale= nt. One translation of 'brr' into lojban that might make sense to a= Chinese speaker is { lenku } (Cold).

Maybe, except that "Brrr...." isn= 9;t a bridi, it's an attitudinal. (Or at least, the English equivalent.= )

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.= e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do z= o'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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