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From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6454c5f513d04a0ed67e5 Content-Length: 11711 --0016e6d6454c5f513d04a0ed67e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yeah, I probably could forego the entire gi'e portion. It's still a really long thing to say even without that, though. On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Johan Pretorius wrote: > doi skami ko jmina li re li re? > > *starts to pull apart the sentence you gave* > > Oh wait, now I get it... hmmm. > > I know this is skips over the scope of what you're asking, but if I told > the computer to "add 2+2 twelve times", I would expect it to know that I > want feedback on the results of doing that. I wouldn't expect to have to > tell it explicitly that I want the results on the screen - maybe there would > be a setting in my program where I can indicate my preference to have > responses printed on the screen (as opposed to having them spoken, or > whatever). I think this is called thread-jacking though, so I'm going to > shut up and go to bed now :-) > > Regards, > Johan > > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> I was hoping maybe someone had an idea for a shorter way to say that.... >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: >> >>> Sounds like you're 1/200th of the way there to a lojbanic scripting >>> language =p >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> Let's pretend for the moment that it is possible to talk to a computer >>>> in Lojban and be understood by it as a jbopre would understand. >>>> >>>> Let us further pretend that we want to test this computer's >>>> responsiveness. Say, add "2+2" 12 times and print the results on the >>>> monitor. >>>> >>>> I came up wuth: {doi skami ko rapygau lonu makau sumji li re li re kei >>>> li gai gi'e ciska lo jalge be la'edi'u lo vi vidni}. >>>> >>>> Comments/suggestions? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >>>> >>>> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi >>>> patfu do zo'o >>>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu >> do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Johan Pretorius > Cell: 0829268327 > pretoriusjf@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0016e6d6454c5f513d04a0ed67e5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I probably could forego the entire gi'e portion. It's still a= really long thing to say even without that, though.

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Johan Pretorius <pretoriusjf@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
doi skami ko jmina li re li re?

*sta= rts to pull apart the sentence you gave*

Oh wait, now I get it...=A0= hmmm.

I know this is skips over the scope of what you're asking, but if I= told the computer to "add 2+2 twelve times", I would expect it t= o know that I want feedback on the results of doing that.=A0 I wouldn't= expect to have to tell it explicitly that I want the results on the screen= - maybe there would be a setting in my program where I can indicate my pre= ference to have responses printed on the screen (as opposed to having them = spoken, or whatever).=A0 I think this is called thread-jacking though, so I= 'm going to shut up and go to bed now :-)

Regards,
Johan



On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeon= us@gmail.com> wrote:
I was hoping maybe someone had an idea for a shorter way to say that....


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 a= t 8:49 PM, Luke Bergen <lukeabergen@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like you're 1/200th of the way th= ere to a lojbanic scripting language =3Dp

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus= @gmail.com> wrote:
Let's p= retend for the moment that it is possible to talk to a computer in Lojban a= nd be understood by it as a jbopre would understand.

Let us further pretend that we want to test this computer's respons= iveness. Say, add "2+2" 12 times and print the results on the mon= itor.

I came up wuth: {doi skami ko rapygau lonu makau sumji li re li re kei = li gai gi'e ciska lo jalge be la'edi'u lo vi vidni}.

Com= ments/suggestions?

--
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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk= . mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D= )

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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i = doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your fat= her. :D )

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