Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QAalX-00043K-3c; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:23 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1962966fxm.16 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=QcWS6Tcics8smM/PPk2UuoITsZ5cR+IV8rGM3Sx9mCY=; b=H8zvkEQtCpSF0wCZ4VuNzjmPHwNpBkFNZAuKAJdtRME1m5Mfd2W/fp3T0ahTn+OQWw bEZtsoT+fd0J2GtxLyLctFsmtelicKkem01aKMW+wA7k2mySUoLw7T2QBH0g/lth+YcI sZT+Juai6SVlzX3mgd9pzzAGSMOQf3r6B7UcE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=B4sR0QIuOuFUFleVOL7D/+6lpUMG8Dkk4qXH7GL9L0FqWYZ2AiC22faqAEAQvYUsHO uNMCjUln1W5iZw3C4p5CdQVTGfpCqPO+HEz0v3uKTfmximUlV1RLZ4xX1JQpuxG8T/aG +Ltwi7jMjotiD1Zgj9XYrkzAWG2lehgd+KDdQ= Received: by 10.223.76.216 with SMTP id d24mr201678fak.32.1302842165452; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.138.67 with SMTP id z3ls54448bkt.0.gmail; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.211 with SMTP id u19mr191045bks.0.1302842163527; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.211 with SMTP id u19mr191044bks.0.1302842163492; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f48.google.com (mail-bw0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j10si381479bka.0.2011.04.14.21.36.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.48; Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so3323500bwz.35 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.15.139 with SMTP id k11mr1275395bka.49.1302842163117; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.116.147 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:36:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <763760.31474.qm@web88001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20110414154715.GC19800@alice.local> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 22:36:03 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Programming in lojbanistan From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555a22254be0604a0ed9472 Content-Length: 14227 --00032555a22254be0604a0ed9472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Luke Bergen wrote: > Some others: > try > string > less than > greater than > function > method > class > field > return > static > private > public > (and finally, the one that will probably generate the most jbodau), > if/elseif/else > The "if" of programming languages isn't the same as the "if" of natlangs. For one thing, programming "if" has exactly one meaning, the logical meaning. The only debate is which of go, gu'o, ganai, and gu'anai is the best to use. I'm pretty sure go is it. {go xy. mecla li mu go xy snicne .ybu} "if (x<5) then x=y" Don't know how to do else, though. > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Johan Pretorius wrote: > >> So to get practical, lets start making a list of the words that are meant, >> and see if there are some translations: >> >> Variable >> While Loop >> For Loop >> Bit >> Byte >> Boolean >> Binary >> Binary Arithmetic >> Bitwise >> Array >> Integer >> Floating point value (float, for short) >> recursion >> Infinite loop >> Infinite recursion >> Exception >> Catch block >> Static initializer >> Constructor (zbasu?) >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, .alyn.post. < >> alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: >> >>> That is almost but not quite programming terminology. I found that >>> document useful and necessary but incomplete when trying to write >>> programs with Lojban variable names. There is a distinct set of >>> terms that apply to programming that don't apply to using one's >>> computer. >>> >>> -Alan >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:28:37AM -0700, A. Piekarski wrote: >>> > There's probably more somewhere, but have you seen this: >>> > [1]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Computer+terminology >>> > >>> > totus >>> > >>> > From: .arpis. >>> > To: Lojban Beginners >>> > Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 11:03:28 AM >>> > Subject: [lojban-beginners] Programming in lojbanistan >>> > I can't imagine this hasn't been discussed, but I haven't found >>> any >>> > resources about the lojban terms that would be used to talk about >>> > programming (and what variables/keywords/etc should be). >>> > >>> > -- >>> > mu'o mi'e .arpis. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> > "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> > >>> > References >>> > >>> > Visible links >>> > 1. http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Computer+terminology >>> >>> -- >>> .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Lojban Beginners" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Johan Pretorius >> Cell: 0829268327 >> pretoriusjf@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Luke Be= rgen <lukeabe= rgen@gmail.com> wrote:
Some others:
try
string
less than
<= div>greater than
function
method
class
<= div>field
return
static
private
public
(and finally, the one that will probably generate the most jbodau= ), if/elseif/else

The "if" of programm= ing languages isn't the same as the "if" of natlangs. For one= thing, programming "if" has exactly one meaning, the logical mea= ning. The only debate is which of go, gu'o, ganai, and gu'anai is t= he best to use. I'm pretty sure go is it. {go xy. mecla li mu go xy sni= cne .ybu} "if (x<5) then x=3Dy"

Don't know how to do else, though.
=A0
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Johan Pretorius <pretoriusjf@gmail.c= om> wrote:
So to get practical, lets start making a lis= t of the words that are meant, and see if there are some translations:

Variable
While Loop
For Loop
Bit
Byte
Boolean
Binary<= br>Binary Arithmetic
Bitwise
Array
Integer
Floating point value (float, for short)
recursionInfinite loop
Infinite recursion
Exception
Catch block
Static = initializer
Constructor (zbasu?)




On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodo= ckikumazvati.org> wrote:
That is almost but not quite programming terminology.=A0 I found that
document useful and necessary but incomplete when trying to write
programs with Lojban variable names. =A0There is a distinct set of
terms that apply to programming that don't apply to using one's
computer.

-Alan

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:28:37AM -0700, A. Piekarski wrote:
> =A0 =A0There's probably more somewhere, but have you seen this:
> =A0 =A0[1]http://www.lojban.org/tiki/Computer+terminology=
>
> =A0 =A0totus
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0From: .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
> =A0 =A0 =A0To: Lojban Beginners <lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com&= gt;
> =A0 =A0 =A0Sent: Thu, April 14, 2011 11:03:28 AM
> =A0 =A0 =A0Subject: [lojban-beginners] Programming in lojbanistan
> =A0 =A0 =A0I can't imagine this hasn't been discussed, but I h= aven't found any
> =A0 =A0 =A0resources about the lojban terms that would be used to talk= about
> =A0 =A0 =A0programming (and what variables/keywords/etc should be). >
> =A0 =A0 =A0--
> =A0 =A0 =A0mu'o mi'e .arpis.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0--
> =A0 =A0 =A0You received this message because you are subscribed to the= Google
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>
> =A0 =A0--
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> References
>
> =A0 =A0Visible links
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