Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QAcFn-0002GA-QG; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:43 -0700 Received: by wya21 with SMTP id 21sf2493467wya.16 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:from:organization:to :subject:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :message-id:x-interia-antivirus:x-emid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=dNez3IOt3BOp0ge4HBmEzIVk4K/jGEiNb9vMrmRvkQ0=; b=rbZhEsU/4X91iuV3jxlybGO+XOIRvhQGjn0fqQcJgFw+cb7qfYPPO+ZP0NtNVvTxFk 1FtGA0DUa1jINaU/wz4ZMWexZcCozQ98Kkr4u54hk7WUsrS69BUZQnPzd+UobzZIU3ot KHULCHiPSQdyHKxuRB0FG1ueWRAtjDJsYlhMU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:organization:to:subject:date :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id :x-interia-antivirus:x-emid:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ETvu2l5kG7Xq+o7qahCdw5cJbkKEF8ruuK0DmWlQ82lCla2OHza9hSb+A82FPODq1t klHxlfHa1uBKBc9LcyVUtMBm4lTFdHIA+cPot46Z5xUElyFpUcx/BNRxQPf8MLKz3EPp mZVnqJ6IVoIboG6XEMfIYXo5Nc3knwgcmhuEc= Received: by 10.216.245.143 with SMTP id o15mr1726147wer.4.1302847886367; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.9.96 with SMTP id k32ls80464wbk.2.gmail; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.143.89 with SMTP id k67mr113913wej.6.1302847885202; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.143.89 with SMTP id k67mr113912wej.6.1302847885181; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (smtpo.poczta.interia.pl [217.74.65.205]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id i72si319823wej.10.2011.04.14.23.11.25; Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) client-ip=217.74.65.205; Received: by smtpo.poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL, from userid 502) id EF5C8102CC26; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:11:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zx-spectrum-1.localnet (aaww234.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.6.82.234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by poczta.interia.pl (INTERIA.PL) with ESMTPSA for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:11:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Krzysztof Sobolewski Organization: Sobole To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Programming in lojbanistan Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:19:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.6 (Linux/2.6.38.2; KDE/4.6.1; x86_64; ; ) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201104150819.08557.jezuch@interia.pl> X-Interia-Antivirus: OK X-EMID: e7748acc X-Original-Sender: jezuch@interia.pl X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jezuch@interia.pl designates 217.74.65.205 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jezuch@interia.pl Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1675 Dnia pi=B1tek, 15 kwietnia 2011 o 06:36:03 Jonathan Jones napisa=B3(a): > The "if" of programming languages isn't the same as the "if" of natlangs.= For one thing, programming "if" has exactly one meaning, the logical meani= ng. I think first of all you should think how it would look like if Lojanistan = invented computers and programming without the knowledge of what we do have= now. Yes, I know it's hard, but... ;) [It's kinda good thing that computer= s were invented in English-speaking world, because English makes very nice = keywords. If it was in Poland, we would have "je=B6li"/"je=BFeli" instead o= f "if"; "dop=F3ki" instead of "while"; and "w przeciwnym razie" instead of = "else"; etc. ;)] For "if" my first thought was {cuxna}; it rather fits better to a "switch" = or something like deconstruction in functional languages, but I think if I = was a Lojbanistani inventing programming, I whould still choose it ;) On th= e other hand {GA ... GI ...} seems perfect for an if...else... construct. S= o yeah, maybe you're right with {ganai} :) --=20 Ecce Jezuch "" - P. 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