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Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] vlastezba: First beta version released!
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On 20/04/2011, Johan Pretorius <pretoriusjf@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> That would indeed be an interesting experiment, I'd be quite keen to see the
> results myself.
>
> Right now, if you just call
>
>    java -jar vlastezba.jar test.txt
>
> with some Lojban text (legal or otherwise) in test.txt, it will return (on
> stdout), one valsi per line.  So "coirodo" would result in:
>    coi
>    ro
>    do
> (you can make it go look up the definitions by passing a second parameter,
> but it will just add junk to the output that I don't think you'd want)
>
> Right now it doesn't check grammar at all, so you can throw any random
> collection of words at it (I don't intend for it to ever do this, there are
> tools out there that are far better at this than I could ever hope to make
> it).
>
> It also won't give you a classification of valsi - it doesn't "know" when
> it's dealing with a cmavo (or indeed what class), or a gismu, or a lujvo.
> This I DO intend to fix.
>
> I want to add other output formats anyway, so if you want me to do something
> specific to make your comparison easier, let me know.  Now would be a good
> time, as I'm going away on holiday for a week, and wanted to spend at least
> a little bit of time on vlastezba.
>
> In fact, if you are comfortable with Java, feel free to make it do what you
> need, the source code is on sourceforge.net (
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/), and is GPL'ed :-)
>
> mu'o mi'e iu'an
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, .alyn.post. <alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org
>> wrote:
>
>> Do you have an external representation for your valsi parsing
>> result?  If I hand you the string "coirodo" is there a print
>> form of that along the lines of ("coi" "ro" "do")?
>>
>> I would be interested seeing the result from processing a large
>> data set of words and phrases and comparing that to jbogenturfa'i.
>> In order to do this I'd need some output format from your program
>> that I could parse.
>>
>> jbogenturfa'i uses the morphology PEG grammar that xorxes developed,
>> so it contains code which I think is similar (and should be
>> identical in result) to what you are doing:
>>
>>  $ echo "coirodo"|jbogenturfahi --rafske
>>  ((cmavo (COI "coi")) (cmavo (PA "ro")) (cmavo (KOhA "do")))
>>
>> I'd be curious to know whether they are in fact producing identical
>> results.
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:02:28AM +0200, Johan Pretorius wrote:
>> >    Hi all
>> >
>> >    You can download it from here:
>> >    [1]
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download
>> >
>> >    I have completed the cmavo cluster breakout code, and tested it as
>> > far
>> as
>> >    I was able.
>> >
>> >    It should be easy enough to run if you have Java 1.6 installed, just
>> go
>> >    java -jar vlastezba.jar and it will print out usage instructions.
>> >
>> >    Please download it and test to pieces! I'd love all your feedback.
>> >
>> >    Not that it doesn't get very smart at this stage - for instance, it
>> won't
>> >    know what to do if you feed it a string of lojban that doesn't have
>> any
>> >    spaces in. The only clever bit is that it's able to break apart cmavo
>> >    clusters if they don't have any spaces.
>> >
>> >    Regards,
>> >    Johan
>> >
>> >    --
>> >    Johan Pretorius
>> >    Cell: 0829268327
>> >    [2]pretoriusjf@gmail.com
>> >
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>> > References
>> >
>> >    Visible links
>> >    1.
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download
>> >    2. mailto:pretoriusjf@gmail.com
>>
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