Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QCZt8-00027N-Eb; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:26 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf923795fxm.16 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:reply-to :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Sc8hGpSW11Yyjq+icp/JBhuf2qlWuvAyZE5/EfehISQ=; b=HLnpBFGX6L8khIB19sMkrrHbZCx02XHdeohmCVHCdYxk0TVNGCG7RuCJW0TGMiJo+2 Fn1OIxv5m9aE+GNJ7hE7gSikW+/+C8ptGguUZnCmJbCMNz3F4lomU3M3MKRjAnGvm1Wv qs7+WhgvWXtbgsrd3S/5lw1muLSeNZo2fdwzI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=iFXaciBKXGrN05lCxuuoNGBXtq0XcnBGWdUCEkqILt3pgjtBgCbp4/+IgXSv8/Yy3k HClYVLTLwJ2Uv8gKqc0UtiDKFdqG6388+0Go7EcfjXLNfqmHop3zVFl+a/xrSaObcgak a2kda3GUasDB3mWjtBlGUfePC+h/MA0cow648= Received: by 10.223.46.76 with SMTP id i12mr381786faf.10.1303315451311; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:11 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.35.21 with SMTP id n21ls740506bkd.1.gmail; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.25.207 with SMTP id a15mr526777bkc.3.1303315440392; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.25.207 with SMTP id a15mr526776bkc.3.1303315440375; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f44.google.com (mail-bw0-f44.google.com [209.85.214.44]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t11si185924bkf.6.2011.04.20.09.04.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jakedust@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.44; Received: by mail-bw0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 13so856538bwz.31 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.161 with SMTP id j33mr993065bkf.212.1303315440138; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:04:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.64.80 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: References: <55e97578-888a-4f10-9bb2-c482ed625361@s3g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> From: "Alessandro \"Jake Dust\" Andrioni" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 13:03:20 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] "th" sounds in Lojban To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jakedust@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jakedust@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.44 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jakedust@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 2994 (or in Portuguese, in German, in Spanish, in Italian, in Polish, in Mandarin, in Hebrew, in French, in Hindi, etc) On 20 April 2011 12:56, .arpis. wrote: > Continuing what {latros} said, your question is similar to asking, "How > would you write the 'th' in Russian?" > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Ian Johnson wro= te: >> >> (I may have misunderstood your question, though.) >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Ian Johnson >> wrote: >>> >>> They're not morphologically permitted, because so few languages have >>> them. If you want to make them, you're going to have to do it inside ZO= I. >>> >>> mu'o mi'e .latros. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:35 AM, Greendogo wrote: >>>> >>>> Hey, I was wondering how someone would write the "th" sounds of "then" >>>> and "thin" (respectively) in Lojbanic orthography without substituting >>>> the ' (h sound). >>>> >>>> I wish someone had taken into account that "th" sounds are very >>>> beautiful. >>>> >>>> Personally, my orthography would have used "x" for the "th" sound in >>>> "thin" and "dx" for the "th" sound in "then". =A0I would have then use= d >>>> "h" for the guttural sound that "x" is now used for. >>>> >>>> I don't know why, but the two "th" sounds are probably my favorite >>>> sounds that the human mouth can produce. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com= . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "Lojban Beginners" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .arpis. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. 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