Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QCloz-0002B5-6S; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:56 -0700 Received: by eyf18 with SMTP id 18sf35690eyf.16 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=g+RfVXVYPFPyeTUriswg4Vh2JfbRy0n9FwW6hHZTpx4=; b=EOD7T2VnQJOzdCE4PX16nZl80XrbMXZ+HfgBvoyWxY7QuuZA52+SaeemJqjr1VViuT JYGdIDb0mt/V9LwYDJzSaPkGa/W1EO4xVZilnhf619hDDuyHRG/unJMmO/Hyfe6YcrCI nWycGaMpppQxrWtq4jqR0LoFtnpg4XDuUmW6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=pQ3bevuHiyvgsEKI0xIoF7ZqMHEU65AqsICPrxwgnwuC73mRZBkrdJxVZW3PiYLQS9 0ekUeK1yjF9QWNaEtV4jvIMQgbQcY5nOHWj3scvBnfFQ2O94fF+dKgNSMw6e95mU6nOS gVp1Bk9l7txULVXloj0w6NF3yZZ4SoReKRV70= Received: by 10.213.25.141 with SMTP id z13mr1210144ebb.0.1303361321925; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:41 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.25.139 with SMTP id z11ls220230eez.0.gmail; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.126.200 with SMTP id b48mr1399146eei.40.1303361319556; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.126.200 with SMTP id b48mr1399145eei.40.1303361319529; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ew0-f49.google.com (mail-ew0-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l57si542103eei.0.2011.04.20.21.48.39 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.49; Received: by ewy3 with SMTP id 3so456358ewy.8 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.213.33.83 with SMTP id g19mr525545ebd.17.1303361319213; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.4.9 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:48:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <7e5bdd6d-4bb8-415e-b50f-6a0d3e5454b4@e8g2000vbz.googlegroups.com> From: Luke Bergen Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:48:19 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] Why is CAhA a tense/modal? To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lukeabergen@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lukeabergen@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lukeabergen@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3b6a721b8a04a166749e Content-Length: 3669 --0015174c3b6a721b8a04a166749e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 what could be more canonical for the definition of a word than the lojbanic definition in jbovlaste? On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Thomas Jack wrote: > > According to how this CAhA is actually defined, {ro datka ka'e > > flulimna} means {lo nu ro datka cu flulimna cu cumki}, which I'm not > > sure would be true if there already is an actuality where some ducks > > can't swim. > > Ah, do you take the Lojban<->Lojban definition ({fi'o se cumki}) at > jbovlaste to be canonical? > > Unfortunately I don't think this is a safe strategy in general, > whether or not xorxes is right about {ka'e}. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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On Thu, Apr 21,= 2011 at 12:34 AM, Thomas Jack <thomasjack@gmail.com> wrote:
> According to how thi= s CAhA is actually defined, {ro datka ka'e
> flulimna} means {lo nu ro datka cu flulimna cu cumki}, which I'm n= ot
> sure would be true if there already is an actuality where some ducks > can't swim.

Ah, do you take the Lojban<->Lojban definition ({fi'o se cu= mki}) at
jbovlaste to be canonical?

Unfortunately I don't think this is a safe strategy in general,
whether or not xorxes is right about {ka'e}.

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