Received: from mail-yi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6mqU-0005vT-OE; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:41:45 -0700 Received: by yie19 with SMTP id 19sf11993500yie.16 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:41:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=EpSL2Cc7CYRuEHwtPcqqkJrQUtWxpfpkrDudHa+YVJY=; b=XoMu6WApfVHy/PqVERmPyK+cqIEDbCejWilNDYClO5CB1Tzwhqi0fN7kns2or676LY bVwKdvZPW9MzNu7Qfk+XVYkISwF1T5j6ymCzp1GTtisE6YKiOSftWvrwQydVPgUnjzxh U8KpH+OamWXN2s4BPERt8PyZsva7xgjfFDF1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=xQJ0ejoPEEzNPomTBTsCsZNFMM5C1djyuaZTB44Tm9YkWegU8ysOyYPF0wSCRc1tXi w2kA7KdLLp6/W1FBrkFHRUxZOiwIjVNdNt8oKe+dUsRBVyx8JhCRE8oRsMCDbDTEmCzh ohFboiqj6Vo7Hqy1Y3qRObw6d8oIaqyU1SI/4= Received: by 10.91.45.1 with SMTP id x1mr1335574agj.55.1301935289231; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.91.116.18 with SMTP id t18ls272238agm.0.p; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.160.32 with SMTP id m32mr465472ago.14.1301935288261; Mon, 04 Apr 2011 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by s9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 09:41:28 -0700 (PDT) X-IP: 89.72.45.166 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US) AppleWebKit/534.16 (KHTML, like Gecko) Ubuntu/10.10 Chromium/10.0.648.133 Chrome/10.0.648.133 Safari/534.16,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <72a5d205-deaa-4624-8c02-5ffde2aa36e2@s9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Poetic license in lojbanic songs? From: ianek To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: janek37@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1101 coi What do you think about stretching Lojban rules in songs? The main thing is the stress, of course it's better when it's kept, but sometimes it's very hard and one syllable falls out... Is it better when the stress is broken on two-syllable cmavo than brivla? I've seen some songs with wrong stress, especially the translations of "The Song That Never Ends", http://www.lojban.org/tiki/The+Song+That+Never+Ends Another thing is {i}. Is it acceptable to skip it on the beginning of a stanza? I've seen such practice in "da pu laldo ninmu co tunlo le sfani", http://www.lojban.org/tiki/da+pu+laldo+ninmu+co+tunlo+le+sfani I don't intend to point anyone's fault, I just want to know what is acceptable in your opinion. mu'o mi'e ianek -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en.