Received: from mail-vx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.220.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q9g5w-0003ZP-6P; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:05:39 -0700 Received: by vxk20 with SMTP id 20sf3203836vxk.16 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:05:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cooNzP9bcnMXKz/3hak34iar1XAqKDl5S37ko6ztWSA=; b=u28bZ9vbtuAn2/u08BYNzL1CvNTOQYuu7i+NDYigCBefGJkHvZcSb854vX3YZPp/fX 5HuXWCzmAjxhZq7bDSe99+HytLNziuW4ZzYA6T8IX0SCCU2kKgPZ1lEGc5IHpHtiKnzI YoBU6XtT4EO1mOcHTbxptdifSK0TusE3tf4BQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=2asRCCLR+Em60SxpvN0Erqxhe5q6/wae7R2VXLV4lTZDuxxlMCZe2dWpsdM54sIZO4 eW50Xga/f5ypUrVzf5ENf6hFTRwXB7CmrgYHWAVCJBnctP+QH7QhbSpbOMIMbfS7HOIP VKpBXzPzWmJRI8tzk265f/ExKJVdCf+Js/dBQ= Received: by 10.220.180.6 with SMTP id bs6mr799704vcb.47.1302623397555; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:57 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.67.30 with SMTP id p30ls2353303vci.3.p; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.0.98 with SMTP id 2mr1607608vdd.3.1302623396570; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.0.98 with SMTP id 2mr1607607vdd.3.1302623396556; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f181.google.com (mail-qy0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id du3si169712vdc.4.2011.04.12.08.49.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.216.181; Received: by mail-qy0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 14so4747361qyg.19 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.247.78 with SMTP id mb14mr5331449qcb.21.1302623395938; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.96.135 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:49:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:49:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] BAI confusion From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Cc: Alex Rozenshteyn X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1322 That's a "modal relative phrase". See Chapter 9, section 10 of the reference grammar. --gejyspa On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Alex Rozenshteyn w= rote: > So I thought I understood lojban modals... then I found this: > {mi ne te du'o lo mikce saske cu ka'e sidju} > > Given what I know of GOI (TIL that {ne} is a member of GOI) and BAI, this > doesn't make sense.=A0 The only way I can make sense of this is to think = of > BAI + sumti =3D> sumti (more or less).=A0 Is this the case? > > -- > =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Alex R > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.