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To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] vlastezba: First beta version released! Message-ID: <20110421194142.GK73288@alice.local> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com References: <20110421123557.GA71258@alice.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.160.175 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of alanpost@sunflowerriver.org) smtp.mail=alanpost@sunflowerriver.org Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 4722 \o/ I look forward to hearing an update from you once you've fixed this round of bugs. I have another file containing test phrases that has been passed around and used by a few Lojbanic programs. I don't have a good description of what the results from that file *should* be, so I haven't done much with it yet. (The amount of manual labor required to validate it is beyond my limit.) Your word boundary detection works differently than what I do by parsing with PEG, it would be neat to see how our programs differ on this comparatively more complicated file. It would at least narrow down the set of things in that file that should be hand checked. -Alan On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 09:30:26PM +0200, Johan Pretorius wrote: > Hi Alan > > I certainly intend to! (that is, both fix the errors and add regression > tests) The next week or two is an excellent time for it too. I spent today > travelling, hopefully tomorrow will afford me a few hours to focus on > this. > > Thank you for the comparitive testing you did! It is something I might not > have thought of, left to my own devices :-) > > -Johan > sent from my X10 Mini > > On 21 Apr 2011 2:36 PM, ".alyn.post." > <[1]alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote: > > Attached you'll find a copy of cmavo.txt and gismu.txt with only the > actual words retained. The definition and class information has > been removed. I run this file through jbogenturfa'i one line at a > time and output all of the words seen on each line. This file is > called baseline.txt. I did the same for vlastezba, creating > output.txt. I've also attached the script I used to run vlastezba, > which works around the two previously reported issues with the > parser (one of which you've already fixed.) > > The file diff.txt is a comparison between jbogenturfa'i and > vlastezba. While this is not an exhaustive test (earlier issues > I reported are not covered by these test cases), I do consider it a > sort of minimal test. There are no lujvo, fu'ivla, cmene, or > non-Lojban words here, however. > > vlastezba crashes on 80 of the 2433 tests. For the remaining tests, > it produces results consistent with jbogenturfa'i. I suspect most > of these tests are crashing on the same or nearly the same problem; > they're clustered in the input around certain word forms. > > Will you fix your program so it no longer crashes on these 80 lines? > Will you add regression testing for these cases so you can verify > that the program still works after changes? > > -Alan > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:02:28AM +0200, Johan Pretorius wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > You can download it from here: > > > > [1][2]http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download > > > > > I have completed the cmavo cluster breakout code, and tested it as far > as > > I was able. > >... > > > [2][3]pretoriusjf@gmail.com > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Lojban Beginner... > > > References > > > > Visible links > > 1. > [4]http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download > > > 2. mailto:[5]pretoriusjf@gmail.com > > -- > .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. > ... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > > References > > Visible links > 1. mailto:alyn.post@lodockikumazvati.org > 2. http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download > 3. mailto:pretoriusjf@gmail.com > 4. http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlastezba/files/vlastezba.jar/download > 5. mailto:pretoriusjf@gmail.com -- .i ma'a lo bradi ku penmi gi'e du -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. 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