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From: Johan Pretorius To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: pretoriusjf@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.49 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pretoriusjf@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=00151747849e2d8a8c04a187a7a1 Content-Length: 10257 --00151747849e2d8a8c04a187a7a1 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747849e2d8a5c04a187a79f --00151747849e2d8a5c04a187a79f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks! Looking at the comparison, I spotted these bugs in vlastezba: 1. For some reason, {bybycy} and {bycy} don't fall apart. I expect them to, they're cmavo clusters. 2. Same thing with {mycy} 3. Same thing with {pycy} 4. Same thing with {lety} 5. vlastezba does not ignore case (it should... in cmavo_list, vlastezba does not break apart these two at all: {cu'uko'aBAI*}, {da'aremoiMOI*} And these, which appear to be bugs in jbogenturfa'i: 1. It seems to think {jefyfa'o} is not a cmavo cluster. 2. Same thing with {ticyve'u} 3. Same thing with {cikygau} 4. Same thing with {vacysai} cmavo_list have two entries that have asterisks as their last character. As far as I understand, asterisks mean nothing in Lojban. Does that mean we need to ignore them (i.e. delete them from the input stream?) And I just realized I had been rude - I never sent you my output files! My apologies, they're attached now. I'm really excited that we're getting such close results! Cheers, Johan On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, .alyn.post. wrote: > I have run these four files through jbogenturfahi with the --rafske > option. I have attached both the raw output[1] and the post-processed > output[2]. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --00151747849e2d8a5c04a187a79f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks!

Looking at the comparison, I spotted these bugs in vlastezba= :
  1. For some reason, {bybycy} and {bycy} don't fall apart.=A0 = I expect them to, they're cmavo clusters.
  2. Same thing with {mycy= }
  3. Same thing with {pycy}
  4. Same thing with {lety}
  5. vlast= ezba does not ignore case (it should... in cmavo_list, vlastezba does not b= reak apart these two at all: {cu'uko'aBAI*}, {da'aremoiMOI*}
And these, which appear to be bugs in jbogenturfa'i:
    <= li>It seems to think {jefyfa'o} is not a cmavo cluster.
  1. Same th= ing with {ticyve'u}
  2. Same thing with {cikygau}
  3. Same thin= g with {vacysai}
cmavo_list have two entries that have asterisks as their last cha= racter.=A0 As far as I understand, asterisks mean nothing in Lojban.=A0 Doe= s that mean we need to ignore them (i.e. delete them from the input stream?= )

And I just realized I had been rude - I never sent you my output files!= =A0 My apologies, they're attached now.

I'm really excited t= hat we're getting such close results!

Cheers,
Johan


On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, .alyn.post.= <al= yn.post@lodockikumazvati.org> wrote:
I have run these four files through jbogenturfahi with the --rafske
option. =A0I have attached both the raw output[1] and the post-processed output[2].

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