Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QDPDm-0000ut-9p; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:53:10 -0700 Received: by qwh5 with SMTP id 5sf2885028qwh.16 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:53:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis :x-cloudmark-score:x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=/bDnggaK9hLgek6I7a8PaGmCngbQC9WeWuLX0q2agYc=; b=SoXbxt0wvrXvxtwCH2DPd8JVFc3JvL0mE3DgmLK0MGSAsfdlapsNlRnUViioPTYoVc oFBnyYNifaA0U+1jn0cZ06R9LUqEuTnBC91v3MevboF+/9aKVb8iKUgguA/73RUoSuHI kXkHUToiyL/AMcoaepbqgZQ/zL7NutIgvTC/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authority-analysis:x-cloudmark-score :x-originating-ip:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gGuMMfXXR9CrMN9/X2BZ6o/US4FfNMhprld1cS8j23ULNqf1TCCdfoUg7lfDUuOQFF CGWVPPy2I2iG5/SA3vuRlls380LMObkLFHFT155nq7tJmBrX+RbIlFL86LnKvQxOcZgF er7wjQt4oYJVw8VC7Kad2M86eH1zb+Hb+qBmo= Received: by 10.224.215.5 with SMTP id hc5mr193526qab.1.1303512775477; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:52:55 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.229.132 with SMTP id ji4ls144138qcb.1.gmail; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.126.167 with SMTP id c39mr117744qcs.25.1303512774519; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.126.167 with SMTP id c39mr117743qcs.25.1303512774501; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.122]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o12si692364qcu.10.2011.04.22.15.52.53; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=75.180.132.122; X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=r4yJ8ACLDmU9N8MfnU6qGSvboKzSN9UnPAeXToqJDNE= c=1 sm=0 a=6ti_TD8eFm8A:10 a=un0pyaqgph4A:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:17 a=XG1ezTjyC7_Z1sS2IAYA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=9o99xeNKNPYSmM5t9x5+TQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 75.176.118.168 Received: from [75.176.118.168] ([75.176.118.168:34842] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F4/18-09483-6B602BD4; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:52:38 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA79A22C for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:52:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] vlastezba: First beta version released! Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 18:52:27 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <20110422205256.GD80702@alice.local> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201104221852.31588.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.122 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Length: 1088 On Friday 22 April 2011 17:23:47 Johan Pretorius wrote: > Huh, you mean they're lujvo? Erm... Then how am I to distinguish betwee= n > a cmavo cluster and a lujvo with impermissable consonant clusters? > Oh wait, I see a possible answer... cmavo can never contain "y", except f= or > .y. and Cy? You have to put a dot or a space in the cmavo cluster, such as "le kymoi"= =20 or "leky.moi". (Neither valfendi nor jbofi'e accepts "kymoi", but it can't = be=20 a lujvo or the beginning of one. camxes accepts it.) With a dot in it, it= =20 still looks like a cluster (as is the previously mentioned "na.a"). Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.