Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QDPSV-0001Vn-5G; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:28 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf1256153fxm.16 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=1r8TZaXqioL2onbWV+zEEDFhV4oO8jwGbGhS87ImfU4=; b=sb6zMlqf71sUL+iHQWDEdML0FXNKlyr2OJx2iEgmBZlcDd+gbIQrHZNkf2Twausf+4 UIwPYzc/rKXRx1LT8mYcRDlwqYEsw8SKVA16JTA9ZIf067mLgfYNqEVprJBZeQiCIwaH 2yo4gzLA48kEavsTYx4m4DHwiDfzEVbOZ2gKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=o/jGibSVA9MutVY2xJYlOFgYWsSqvsqI7fn47iFbZMZc05d0/CI16TU49PhKYwJulF GoYsSr5NmI9OeV0XuVLnElPZBYiWNvFAxW0Pfrn8rwwmA2LB1oROTtJa91yH0JWau4qj n8JqiUZ7xZprnL2WPXXn4U2jVR/snFccmrwc4= Received: by 10.223.99.206 with SMTP id v14mr295121fan.17.1303513688013; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:08 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.49.212 with SMTP id w20ls1464487bkf.2.gmail; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.99 with SMTP id i35mr124675bkf.9.1303513686070; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.46.99 with SMTP id i35mr124674bkf.9.1303513686018; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f50.google.com (mail-fx0-f50.google.com [209.85.161.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id st2si586439bkb.4.2011.04.22.16.08.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.50; Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16so710938fxm.23 for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.6.73 with SMTP id 9mr1690669fay.131.1303513684637; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.87.1 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:08:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201104221852.31588.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <20110422205256.GD80702@alice.local> <201104221852.31588.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:08:04 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] vlastezba: First beta version released! From: Johan Pretorius To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: pretoriusjf@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pretoriusjf@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pretoriusjf@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151747b38021f88304a189ee75 Content-Length: 2705 --00151747b38021f88304a189ee75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > Huh, you mean they're lujvo? Erm... Then how am I to distinguish > between > > a cmavo cluster and a lujvo with impermissable consonant clusters? > > Oh wait, I see a possible answer... cmavo can never contain "y", except > for > > .y. and Cy? > > You have to put a dot or a space in the cmavo cluster, such as "le kymoi" > or "leky.moi". (Neither valfendi nor jbofi'e accepts "kymoi", but it can't > be > a lujvo or the beginning of one. camxes accepts it.) With a dot in it, it > still looks like a cluster (as is the previously mentioned "na.a"). > > So, what you're saying is, that "bybycy" isn't a legal cmavo cluster? Instead, it should be written "by.by.cy"? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --00151747b38021f88304a189ee75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Huh, you mean they're lujvo? =A0 Erm... Then how am I to distingui= sh between
> a cmavo cluster and a lujvo with impermissable consonant clusters?
> Oh wait, I see a possible answer... cmavo can never contain "y&qu= ot;, except for
> .y. and Cy?

You have to put a dot or a space in the cmavo cluster, such as "= le kymoi"
or "leky.moi". (Neither valfendi nor jbofi'e accepts "ky= moi", but it can't be
a lujvo or the beginning of one. camxes accepts it.) With a dot in it, it still looks like a cluster (as is the previously mentioned "na.a"= ).


So, what you're saying is, that "bybycy&quo= t; isn't a legal cmavo cluster?=A0 Instead, it should be written "= by.by.cy"?

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