Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QDoax-0007Ce-Qs; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:51 -0700 Received: by fxm14 with SMTP id 14sf2237102fxm.16 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=AJCdPfpCoJTJHRadYw6LRhOiFX5hK3xTIlknvW2B0xw=; b=MOzer8ZJS2YySTBT+BbpnkeFT1qYVNLhMdy2tbpXgovFJsH+YnXIoNx2JyuDO+W/Ys DM5NcvucRlKrXwDwX5Sf7eBxPZpzClhzQQOpGeqcRsjvEs+AQdTo9O48w4SXik7pFS5k GolWgUqj3vRztneSeO2STnCJ/AAA+OprGoNRQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=QU5Too7UfX3BsNTvoIS3PqRSyIDiljN4n0/3G47j2zTAJofkHwpLLxSvUzen40uxBe Vgghq8v9Mq5FwlLFxtoHHNrPjnDX2RzzIRp8PvhDF1SdMNw1JkXI0xjh8gx3BpCnYZCc g3PDGhN/sCvkUmKesgmMyi21K7qvQlsChatX4= Received: by 10.223.113.223 with SMTP id b31mr463414faq.3.1303610312556; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:32 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.49.212 with SMTP id w20ls1651141bkf.2.gmail; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.177.204 with SMTP id bj12mr202626bkb.12.1303610311188; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.177.204 with SMTP id bj12mr202625bkb.12.1303610311150; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-bw0-f53.google.com (mail-bw0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e15si774543bke.5.2011.04.23.18.58.31 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.53; Received: by bwg12 with SMTP id 12so1287229bwg.26 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.181.7 with SMTP id bw7mr2172648bkb.16.1303610310955; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.57.137 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:58:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:58:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban-beginners] letter(as in note)/email endings? From: Alex Rozenshteyn To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99c7b8291eb04a1a06dba Content-Length: 5519 --0016e6d99c7b8291eb04a1a06dba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 {mu'o} doesn't signal the end of a transmission. It signals that the next word is the person/group you're talking to (although it can be prematurely terminated with {do'u}), and that you are then done. {mi'e} means that the next word is your name. {mi'e ___ mu'o} may have another word following it, indicating whom it was directed to. {mu'o mi'e ___} has nothing following it, and doesn't explicitly say whom it's directed to. On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Marjorie Scherf wrote: > It appears that common practice for ending emails is to have {mu'o mi'e > _______ } where "________" is the name, but I recently noticed an email > signature in which the writer used {mi'e ________ mu'o} which, once I > thought about it, seems to make more sense. If {mu'o} is supposed to signal > the end of the transmission, anything after that would be disregarded, and > the self-introduction conventionally put at the end of emails and letters, > if put after the {mu'o} instead of before, would seem to be excluded from > the message. So when I actually think about it, it seems like {mi'e > _________ mu'o} would make more sense than the more common {mu'o mi'e > ________ } I more commonly see. I'm wondering whether my friend has has an > insight missed by the majority of the most vocal lojbanists, or if there is > some reason for the common form that I have not yet considered. > > .i mi'e la .jdakrat.skaryzgik. mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Lojban Beginners" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. > -- Alex R -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban-beginners?hl=en. --0016e6d99c7b8291eb04a1a06dba Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {mu'o} doesn't signal the end of a transmission. It signals that th= e next word is the person/group you're talking to (although it can be p= rematurely terminated with {do'u}), and that you are then done.=A0 {mi&= #39;e} means that the next word is your name.

{mi'e ___ mu'o} may have another word following it, indicating = whom it was directed to.
{mu'o mi'e ___} has nothing following i= t, and doesn't explicitly say whom it's directed to.

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Marjorie Scherf <skaryzgik@gmail.com> wrote= :
It appears that common practice for ending emails is to have {mu'o mi&#= 39;e _______ } =A0where "________" is the name, but I recently no= ticed an email signature in which the writer used {mi'e ________ mu'= ;o} which, once I thought about it, seems to make more sense. If {mu'o}= is supposed to signal the end of the transmission, anything after that wou= ld be disregarded, and the self-introduction conventionally put at the end = of emails and letters, if put after the {mu'o} instead of before, would= seem to be excluded from the message. So when I actually think about it, i= t seems like {mi'e _________ mu'o} would make more sense than the m= ore common {mu'o mi'e ________ } I more commonly see. I'm wonde= ring whether my friend has has an insight missed by the majority of the mos= t=A0vocal lojbanists, or if there is some reason for the common form that I= have not yet considered.

.i mi'e la .jdakrat.skaryzgik. mu'o

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