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On Saturday 23 April 2011 21:38:28 Marjorie Scherf wrote:
> It appears that common practice for ending emails is to have {mu'o mi'e
> _______ }  where "________" is the name, but I recently noticed an email
> signature in which the writer used {mi'e ________ mu'o} which, once I
> thought about it, seems to make more sense. If {mu'o} is supposed to sign=
al
> the end of the transmission, anything after that would be disregarded, an=
d
> the self-introduction conventionally put at the end of emails and letters=
,
> if put after the {mu'o} instead of before, would seem to be excluded from
> the message. So when I actually think about it, it seems like {mi'e
> _________ mu'o} would make more sense than the more common {mu'o mi'e
> ________ } I more commonly see. I'm wondering whether my friend has has a=
n
> insight missed by the majority of the most vocal lojbanists, or if there =
is
> some reason for the common form that I have not yet considered.

"mu'o" and "mi'e" are both vocatives. The sumti (you can also have a selbri=
 or=20
a bare name; in each of these cases an article is assumed) after "mu'o" is=
=20
the person you're yielding the floor to; the sumti after "mi'e" is yourself=
.=20
In "mu'o mi'e pier" the object of "mu'o" is an implicit "zo'e", so I'm=20
yielding the floor to anyone. In "mi'e pier. mu'o" the object of "mu'o" is=
=20
any sumti, selbri, or bare name that comes after it; if there is none, it's=
=20
implicit "zo'e".

Pierre
--=20
La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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