Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QFSkZ-00014y-Dd; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:03:34 -0700 Received: by ywg8 with SMTP id 8sf4867933ywg.16 for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:03:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent :x-http-useragent:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=UxsNQMkxaxrBQnGc+f6PtIPsyhC+TjxlbNkTbdtbwkU=; b=nyTSo/iYTeeSX1edbF7Ch979YueyjItnIvngXsV771RGQmuzJJ+Y2e/us6/xxX2NNe U1bIboIRgkmWhoQ+h5BwqGcqpLAwkBm4n0llp0VSvHsiKuPB8N1j+0zMVrNawY9zP+It sDsgQTezJr88diZLmYIX8emjqsEEXxidDy/QI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:date:x-ip:user-agent:x-http-useragent :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence :mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=4lcfYVi2NYwOrhI4l3yfJsN7e56tQN3xYLjlSWGGtmxwx4nyl1fbA8Ku0R6jEsuPVk vyAWe0BddeKmFugL3u2cUSbeMXT4M6I2wuGYgGdCFikDMG7e4OTFOOYLvRsuXJ+fIgRm uhT5Nwu9ngAn8ULm/5FOO0d0pgXwntnf6Ci7A= Received: by 10.151.19.2 with SMTP id w2mr471897ybi.57.1304002997526; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:03:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.151.33.30 with SMTP id l30ls1373433ybj.0.gmail; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.138.18 with SMTP id l18mr438132ybd.18.1304002996876; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.127.19 with SMTP id e19msybn; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.91.144.8 with SMTP id w8mr339160agn.45.1304002161577; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by w24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) X-IP: 209.221.90.202 User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110323 Ubuntu/10.10 (maverick) Firefox/3.6.16,gzip(gfe) Message-ID: <1ef02bdb-cb9a-4474-a0d8-e2fd2f84e2ab@w24g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Possession with "le le ..." From: Ben Foppa To: Lojban Beginners X-Original-Sender: eatingstaples@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com; contact lojban-beginners+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 300742228892 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 997 Lojban for Beginners says "...consider how you would say le tamne pe le ninmu klama 'the woman traveller's cousin' with this kind of nesting. You could flip it around as le le ninmu klama tamne =97 but then, how can you tell where the 'possessor' ends and where the 'possessee' begins?" I wonder why a construct like "le le ninmu klama cu tamne" wouldn't work, to separate the argument to the first "le" (which is "ninmu klama"), from the argument to the second "le" (which is "tamne"). Is the purpose of "cu" not simply to separate two selbri when they are consecutive arguments, or when one is the argument to another? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Lojban Beginners" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban-beginners@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban-beginners+unsubscribe@= googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= -beginners?hl=3Den.